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Old 06-22-2010, 09:32 PM   #391
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I'm going to have to jump in here and back up Zelda.

She did not call you a troll. She said that when you called someone's use of the word liseuse silly, you would be trolling. I agree. It is also against forum rules. I've jumped on other people before on this issue.

You do not have a right to insult people and belittle their choice of vocabulary, nor to derail discussions on other topics over other people's choice of words.
What? As mentioned above This Whole thread is about the word.

SHE DID ACCUSE ME OF TROLLING, if that is not calling me a troll then nothing is. I'm doing nothing different than others are by wedging the word in and claiming it fits. I'm claiming it doesn't. I object to it and it insults me when it is used.

I have attacked no one, I've insulted no one and certainly no more than I have been insulted.

The whole point of this thread is discussing the word. If you are going to call me a troll for objecting to it then you fit in the same category as Zelda and have no business being a moderator.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:40 PM   #392
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Exactly. If people don't want the WORD and it's chances of catching on to be attacked and debated, then this thread should be closed and no future threads on the topic allowed.
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I still dont understand what the hell we are talking about.

Is this about Arizona???
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:46 PM   #394
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Are there any real life examples of the word liseuse being used outside of MobileRead in any English language publications (i.e. books, magazines, television, etc.) yet?
If not, are any MobileRead fans of the word willing to put the word on the line as it were?
That was the purpose of this thread. Looking for the word, and making publicity. No flame war. No debate.



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I still dont understand what the hell we are talking about.

Is this about Arizona???
Yes, Arizona doesn't want illegal immigrant words coming into their vocabulary and have passed a law against it. Some people say it's racist, others say it's necessary.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:54 PM   #396
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Will do now.


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Old 06-22-2010, 10:11 PM   #397
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Yes, Arizona doesn't want illegal immigrant words coming into their vocabulary and have passed a law against it. Some people say it's racist, others say it's necessary.

There was a new law passed in Nebraska yesterday as well. It's expected to be declared illegal (like the immigrants it seeks to ban).
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Insulting people is over the line for sure. But again, the whole point of this thread (as indicated by the "?" in the title is to debate the chances of the term catching on.

Saying it's a silly term from the perspective of English speakers is a valid reason for one to argue why it won't catch on. That's calling the term silly. Now if he's going around saying the people using it are silly, then fine you can say that's a personal attack I suppose. But I didn't see much of that from him.
But he said he was going to do it, and she said that doing it was trolling. I don't see the problem here.
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It just seems the modding is pretty un-even on this site. There were much more blatant personal attacks that went barely dealt with in the Apple forum for quite a while. Apparently some action was finally taken, though I was shocked no one was banned for it. Guess I shouldn't be as I didn't even get ban when I asked for my account to be banned after getting a deserved suspension for insulting someone!

In short, the mods on this site need to gain some consistency and grow a pair and actually ban some people as the level of discourse on this site frankly stinks at times. Part of it's just the international make up I think, as I've never found a hugely international forum site that worked out well. Anyone know of a good American centered e-readrer forum site?
There's only one overriding problem here at MobileRead, but I can't discuss it in public.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:26 PM   #399
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There's only one overriding problem here at MobileRead, but I can't discuss it in public.
If you could PM, I'd appreciate it and not pass it on to anyone.

If there's some chance of a major improvement I may take back my request for my account to be closed. As is, the sites full of way to much bickering that is just not dealt with well at all by mods IMO--but that's for the feedback thread.
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Yes, Arizona doesn't want illegal immigrant words coming into their vocabulary and have passed a law against it. Some people say it's racist, others say it's necessary.
*shrug*

I went to central mexico without a permit and they told me to get the f*ck out.
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Question ahhh what?

@kennyc
you feel it - as you have stated - insulting, being confronted with the usage of a foreign, in this case, French word in a discussion led in the english language, right.

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replace all following cases of the lexeme 'insult' with 'disdain' and feel equally adressed
  • Now it is absolutely clearly VISIBLE by reading this thread's title i.e. even without entering it, that this thread's matter of discussion will be a french terminus technicus, for the deviceclass this boards are dedicated to.
  • the threads location (main i.e. english, lounge and NOT the french subforum) hints already, that, apart from the fact, that the discussed terminus is french, the discussion itself will be lead in the english language.

Thus, as already a brief examination of the threads outer attributes must have revealed its (in your personal case - insulting) nature - I really ask myself:

What, by the tablet of Calliope, actually made you not only enter, but even re-subscribe to such a discussion?

T'is a behaviour so far from any logical explanation, that I feel tempted to call it Koân-reenactment.
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The word liseuse being used outside of MobileRead?

The word liseuse being used outside of MobileRead?

My goodness, 27 pages and counting and not one person checked...



Are you all thick?

I was under the impression that most people here were literate but obviously not...



If you had just checked

You would have seen that the answer to the question posed in this thread is yes the word liseuse is being used outside of MobilRead to describe ebook readers on a few other sites.

So...

YES


Check in the future it will save a lot of people venting about things.

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Old 06-23-2010, 03:55 AM   #404
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Having somewhat lost the thread of this thread I went back and read AprilHare's original two posts. The first post was asking if the word liseuse was popping up anywhere outside MR and the second thread was a challenge to authors to include it in their writings. The purpose of the thread therefor was to promote the word.

Then there were a number of posts saying the word shouldn't be promoted because...well mostly because it's French. There were also a number of posts saying that it would never "catch on" and become part of the English speaking world's general vocabulary. As far as I can tell this second issue was never part of the OP's question or challenge and so is irrelevant to the topic of the thread.

So the issue of the thread has been whether the word liseuse is or should be acceptable to right thinking English speakers. What's weird for me is that I'm English and, as such, temperamentally and instinctively Francophobe - Francophobia runs in our blood, it's not a thought out position - it's a habit. But even given my genetic Francophobia I have been aghast at some of the vitriol that has been displayed by some of those arguing against the acceptability of the word. We've even had the suggestion that such vitriol is the inevitable consequence of trying to have an international forum - see what happens when you let Johnny Foreigner into the discussion. Then we've had a new thread started to complain about the moderation of this thread - which in a twisted way has used the fact that one of the participants in the discussion is the moderator to impugn that person.

I've been referred to on this thread as a whacko - some of you are freakin' sickos. Relax a bit, it's a word, it's a nice word I think but if you don't like it fine - this thread was never for you. It was for people who do like the word and think it would be interesting/fun/diverting/amusing or some other mildly positive attitudinal adjective, to see it gain wider acceptance.

Oh, and for the record I think that starting the complaint thread complaining about the moderation of this thread is bang out of order.
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