MS Surface 2nd generaton

[mgmueller]

Originally Posted by kevinp

...They way overpriced them, at least as far as I'm concerned...

If I compare to, let's say, my MacBook Air with similar specs, I don't think Surface Pro has been overpriced.
It may be above the price point of major target groups, but that's another point.
If I check the market (1 year ago, when Surface Pro did appear for the first time), an i5 processor couldn't be found for a lower price.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by HarryT

They are reasonably priced compared to other devices in the "ultrabook" class (which is what they are). It's not "throwing money away" if (like me) it's a device you have a use for. Mine gets used all day, every day.

Originally Posted by HarryT

Agreed. The Surface Pro is a "real" PC. The Surface RT is a competitor for the iPad or an Android tablet (or even a Chromebook). Different devices. Different markets.

Story of my life: Ultrabook taste on a Chromebook budget.

[WillysJeepMan]

Originally Posted by ApK

Story of my life: Ultrabook taste on a Chromebook budget.

That's not a bad thing if the Chromebook happens to be a Pixel.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by WillysJeepMan

That's not a bad thing if the Chromebook happens to be a Pixel.

Yeah, I figured that would come up.
Visualize an Acer C7 (which is what I actually have, as it happens).

[ApK]

Duplicate post.

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by ApK

Story of my life: Ultrabook taste on a Chromebook budget.

Karma for that from one who relates.

[MovieBird]

Originally Posted by holymadness

But no one will buy it.

Well, they've sold at least 11,000.

Originally Posted by AIAA

Delta Air Lines To Replace Pilots’ Books With Microsoft Surface 2 Tablets.

The AP (10/1) reports Delta Air Lines will replace some pilots’ “heavy bundles of books and maps” with 11,000 Microsoft Surface 2 tablets. The airline expects to save millions with the switch each year because of “fuel and other costs.” The article notes that if the FAA approves, Delta wants to have the tablets on all planes by the end of 2014. Initially, the tablets will be tested on Boeing 757s and 767s.

[mgmueller]

Originally Posted by holymadness

...But no one will buy it...

I will.
I'm a bit reluctant, as my Surface Pro G1 only is about 6 months old.
But it quickly became my favorite, so its successor is a "must have" for me.
I barely touch my iPad mini or Nexus 7 anymore (although I replaced my Nexus 7 2012 unit with the 2013 successor).
Next to my Surface Pro, I mainly use Dell Latitude 10 now - another Windows 8 tablet.
Surface for the "heavy stuff", Latitude 10 for my mobile demands.
Why?
Compared to Windows 8 tablets, the rest is only gimmicks and gadgets.
iPad mini is a phantastic toy. But that's what it is: A toy.
Whereas my Windows 8 tablets are in a similar class as my MacBook Air: real "working machines".
I don't have a real reason, to replace my Surface Pro G1. I never had any complaints about battery or performance. But, collector that I am, I won't be able to resist long.
I'll wait for the 256GB or 512GB units, though = mid to end of December in Germany.

[HarryT]

My Surface Pro is my primary PC now; I find that I'm hardly using my "main" laptop any more. I think it's a superb machine.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by mgmueller

I will.
I'm a bit reluctant, as my Surface Pro G1 only is about 6 months old.
But it quickly became my favorite, so its successor is a "must have" for me.
I barely touch my iPad mini or Nexus 7 anymore (although I replaced my Nexus 7 2012 unit with the 2013 successor).
Next to my Surface Pro, I mainly use Dell Latitude 10 now - another Windows 8 tablet.
Surface for the "heavy stuff", Latitude 10 for my mobile demands.
Why?
Compared to Windows 8 tablets, the rest is only gimmicks and gadgets.
iPad mini is a phantastic toy. But that's what it is: A toy.
Whereas my Windows 8 tablets are in a similar class as my MacBook Air: real "working machines".
I don't have a real reason, to replace my Surface Pro G1. I never had any complaints about battery or performance. But, collector that I am, I won't be able to resist long.
I'll wait for the 256GB or 512GB units, though = mid to end of December in Germany.

Originally Posted by HarryT

My Surface Pro is my primary PC now; I find that I'm hardly using my "main" laptop any more. I think it's a superb machine.

I just want to say, you two are EVIL. EVIL, EVIL EVIL. I am positively dying for one of these, and you two are like little devils whispering in my "I-cannot-afford-it-right-now" ears!

Hitch

[mgmueller]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I just want to say, you two are EVIL. EVIL, EVIL EVIL. I am positively dying for one of these, and you two are like little devils whispering in my "I-cannot-afford-it-right-now" ears!

Hitch

Just a suggestion:
I'm pretty sure, Surface Pro G1 will drop in price drastically.
From Microsoft, but mainly from end users, selling their G1s (only about 6 months old now) to replace them by G2s.
G1s still are perfectly fine and totally up for the task.
I'm pretty sure, you'll get the 128GB version of Surface Pro G1 for ca. € 500 in 2 months.

[WillysJeepMan]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I just want to say, you two are EVIL. EVIL, EVIL EVIL. I am positively dying for one of these, and you two are like little devils whispering in my "I-cannot-afford-it-right-now" ears!

Hitch

The guys over at WindowsPhone Central forum who have had an opportunity to get their hands on a Surface 2 (2nd gen RT) claim that the performance is not only significantly better than the RT, but also the Pro 1. So unless you have a burning need for legacy support, you might want to consider a Surface 2 (at half the price of the Pro 2).

I'm thoroughly enjoying my RT...especially running 8.1 which is a very, very nice improvement. So far the greatest downside is the poor support for capacitive stylus/finger drawing.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by WillysJeepMan

The guys over at WindowsPhone Central forum who have had an opportunity to get their hands on a Surface 2 (2nd gen RT) claim that the performance is not only significantly better than the RT, but also the Pro 1. So unless you have a burning need for legacy support, you might want to consider a Surface 2 (at half the price of the Pro 2).

I'm thoroughly enjoying my RT...especially running 8.1 which is a very, very nice improvement. So far the greatest downside is the poor support for capacitive stylus/finger drawing.

Well...thanks, I think. I mean, I'm genuinely appreciative of the information, I am, make no mistake. It's just making my yen much, much, worse. When I sit here and stare at all of Amazon's new HDX products, about which I'll have no choice but to buy 1, maybe 2 (for testing for my company), and add in a Surface, my wallet has a MI moment and self-destructs, without Lalo Schiffrin's theme music, bless his heart.

Thanks, WillysJeepMan--that really is excellent to know.

Hitch

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by WillysJeepMan

The guys over at WindowsPhone Central forum who have had an opportunity to get their hands on a Surface 2 (2nd gen RT) claim that the performance is not only significantly better than the RT, but also the Pro 1. So unless you have a burning need for legacy support, you might want to consider a Surface 2 (at half the price of the Pro 2).

The whole point of the Pro for me is the ability to run "real" Windows software.

[mgmueller]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The whole point of the Pro for me is the ability to run "real" Windows software.

+1.
I like my Surface RT. But being able to install all my legacy stuff is an enormous advantage of Surface Pro. And if you've got a Surface Pro, there's no real argument for an additional Surface RT.
Still: Looking at the low price of Surface RT, I'm tempted to buy one in addition. No real need in addition to Surface Pro, but on the other hand it (RT) easily can compete with other tablets I might be tempted to buy...