iLiad article in German magazine C't

R2D2 · 01-20-2007, 03:02 PM

Hi, I just found a review of the iLiad in the actual issue (can be bought from Monday on) of the German computer magazine C't.

It took some time for them to write it.

Unfortunately they did not mention my meditiation thread. Although they sounded as like they would have needed some meditation just like the rest of us. At least they had 2.8 to test. ;-)

LOL

To be serious:
The did not mention our community at all. :-(

b_k · 01-20-2007, 03:18 PM

I think it pretty much describes the current state of the iLiad. I found the conclusion and especially the last sentence a pretty good description of the current situation.

It's a bit sad that they didn't mention mobileread.

BTW: did I overread it or did they not mention the 30 sec boot time, cause by the iLiad missing a suspend mode between pages?

The GreatGonzo · 01-20-2007, 05:59 PM

So did they like it or not???

b_k · 01-20-2007, 06:22 PM

some badly translated quotes:
"Obviously it is a device for (Very) Early Adopters and very tolerant users. The user interface is partly unstructured and the system is not totally save from crashes."

"iRex is on the right way, but you should leave them some time for further updates."
(c't 03/2007, p.76)

All in all they seem to like it, aside from the already known problems, for running Linux and not being bound to a DRM system.

I think they didn't loose a word on the boot-time and lack of suspend, cause the people at "Heise" (the publisher) are said to have a faible for Linux and don't being fans of DRM (called Digital Restrictions Management in their publications often enough).

jæd · 01-21-2007, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_k

some badly translated quotes:
"Obviously it is a device for (Very) Early Adopters and very tolerant users. The user interface is partly unstructured and the system is not totally save from crashes."

Sounds like yet more mis-information and sour grapes...

Alexander Turcic · 01-21-2007, 08:45 AM

This is the 2nd time C't talked about the iLiad. You find another reference in "Digitales Papier - So funktionieren E-Paper-Displays" in 21/2006.

tribble · 01-21-2007, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

This is the 2nd time C't talked about the iLiad. You find another reference in "Digitales Papier - So funktionieren E-Paper-Displays" in 21/2006.

I read that article. It was sooo full of mistakes and misinformation, unbelievable. That was a very disappointing experience for me.

Alexander Turcic · 01-21-2007, 09:32 AM

I agree. They used to be better in doing research.

joblack · 01-21-2007, 10:12 AM

Interestingly the last sentences are very impressive (and true) (free translation):

Despite the problems the wishlist for iRex will be getting longer and longer. But you adapt to the Reader very fast and you won´t give it away again.

+

I´ve got the impression that at least half of the people are German natives - we could also just start talking German ;o).

Leaping Gnome · 01-21-2007, 10:14 AM

Maybe they did not mention Mobileread because it is an english site?

b_k · 01-21-2007, 10:42 AM

um, actually you need to understand a bit of english to get through the order process at iRex. So, what would be the problem?

Aside from that, in other cases they linked to english sites (OpenSIMPad for one that I remember, and probably a lot more I don't know now)

ali · 01-21-2007, 11:21 AM

I just read the article. I think it's a very friendly article, actually somewhat overpositive.

A surprise: IRex is aware of the annoying buzzing sound some Iliad's make, and is running a recall? I didn't knew that.

I had the impression that some informations in the article were taken from iRex announcements, or just assumed without being tested. (It mentions adding content over LAN/Wifi, and 16h battery time, or using the Iliad to carry all the publications you need for your dissertation / your article around)

Reg. not mentioning mobileread: This magazine usually doesn't point to user communities in device reviews. It often points to english sources.

joblack · 01-24-2007, 09:18 AM

The c´t is normally very reliable in they reviews.

For the iLiad I cannot rate this yet -> I´m still saving money for my first iLiad ;o).

cdie · 02-03-2007, 02:24 AM

Actually, got the magazine from a colleague, and I think they wrote a honest statement which only strengthened my decision "Pro Iliad" and I'm still a happy Iliad user, and more enthusiastic every day !

While I crawled through all the forums, I have to admit that half of the forums are filled with annoying and arrogant people ("He ho, I will leave this iliad community now, and the world will disappear with me, he ho" and those type of people) which is not really good for iRexTechnologies: A few people spreading bad facts, bad rumours and a negative mood about this excellent and brilliant device (ie. How can you dare to compare the iRex with the Starebook, this Starebook is a joke IMHO).

This device has its flaws, and so does my iPod, but there is an enormous potential as well, and it's in an early stage, so you either choose to be an early adaptor, and live with the consequences, or you don't, but then you better keep your hands off.

tribble · 02-03-2007, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdie

(ie. How can you dare to compare the iRex with the Starebook, this Starebook is a joke IMHO).

This device has its flaws, and so does my iPod, but there is an enormous potential as well, and it's in an early stage

Hmm, i must say, now you are a bit arrogant. The comparison is very well deserved, since the iLiad has lots of potential, which could pale the starereader in comparison, but the truth is, its just potential. Nothing much more at the moment.

I do hope, that the iLiad will use its potential quite soon, since the specs that are even stated on the box, are still not reached yet. And time is running out for the iLiad. Several other products are currently being developed which are supposed to hit the market at the end of this year, which seem to have the same or more potential than the iLiad. So the people from iRex need to speed up their development a bit, so they do not loose their advantage.

Since it is the only device with such a large screen and a wacom tablet, it is still my favourite, but i see color and flexible displays on the horizon. So i do hope, iRex has the iLiad 2.0 already in development. This time with colour and a multitouch screen and faster eink response times and definately a much better power management.

01-20-2007, 03:02 PM	#1
R2D2 Mad Scientist Posts: 294 Karma: 242 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Device: Zaurus, HTCMagician, iLiad	iLiad article in German magazine C't Hi, I just found a review of the iLiad in the actual issue (can be bought from Monday on) of the German computer magazine C't. It took some time for them to write it. Unfortunately they did not mention my meditiation thread. Although they sounded as like they would have needed some meditation just like the rest of us. At least they had 2.8 to test. ;-) LOL To be serious: The did not mention our community at all. :-( Last edited by R2D2; 01-20-2007 at 03:10 PM.

01-20-2007, 03:18 PM	#2
b_k Übernerd Posts: 238 Karma: 74 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Device: iRex iLiad	I think it pretty much describes the current state of the iLiad. I found the conclusion and especially the last sentence a pretty good description of the current situation. It's a bit sad that they didn't mention mobileread. BTW: did I overread it or did they not mention the 30 sec boot time, cause by the iLiad missing a suspend mode between pages? Last edited by b_k; 01-20-2007 at 03:39 PM.

02-03-2007, 02:24 AM	#14
cdie Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2007	Actually, got the magazine from a colleague, and I think they wrote a honest statement which only strengthened my decision "Pro Iliad" and I'm still a happy Iliad user, and more enthusiastic every day ! While I crawled through all the forums, I have to admit that half of the forums are filled with annoying and arrogant people ("He ho, I will leave this iliad community now, and the world will disappear with me, he ho" and those type of people) which is not really good for iRexTechnologies: A few people spreading bad facts, bad rumours and a negative mood about this excellent and brilliant device (ie. How can you dare to compare the iRex with the Starebook, this Starebook is a joke IMHO). This device has its flaws, and so does my iPod, but there is an enormous potential as well, and it's in an early stage, so you either choose to be an early adaptor, and live with the consequences, or you don't, but then you better keep your hands off. Last edited by cdie; 02-03-2007 at 02:36 AM.

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01-20-2007, 05:59 PM	#3
The GreatGonzo Old Yeller Posts: 180 Karma: 67 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Iliad & Kindle - The Best of Both Worlds	So did they like it or not???

01-20-2007, 06:22 PM	#4
b_k Übernerd Posts: 238 Karma: 74 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Device: iRex iLiad	some badly translated quotes: "Obviously it is a device for (Very) Early Adopters and very tolerant users. The user interface is partly unstructured and the system is not totally save from crashes." "iRex is on the right way, but you should leave them some time for further updates." (c't 03/2007, p.76) All in all they seem to like it, aside from the already known problems, for running Linux and not being bound to a DRM system. I think they didn't loose a word on the boot-time and lack of suspend, cause the people at "Heise" (the publisher) are said to have a faible for Linux and don't being fans of DRM (called Digital Restrictions Management in their publications often enough).

01-21-2007, 08:45 AM	#6
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	This is the 2nd time C't talked about the iLiad. You find another reference in "Digitales Papier - So funktionieren E-Paper-Displays" in 21/2006.

01-21-2007, 09:32 AM	#8
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	I agree. They used to be better in doing research.

01-21-2007, 10:12 AM	#9
joblack Wizard Posts: 1,746 Karma: 4382514 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere on earth Device: Onyx Boox Tab X	Interestingly the last sentences are very impressive (and true) (free translation): Despite the problems the wishlist for iRex will be getting longer and longer. But you adapt to the Reader very fast and you won´t give it away again. + I´ve got the impression that at least half of the people are German natives - we could also just start talking German ;o).

01-21-2007, 10:14 AM	#10
Leaping Gnome Evangelist Posts: 490 Karma: 1641 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville Device: Sony Reader PRS-500	Maybe they did not mention Mobileread because it is an english site?

01-21-2007, 10:42 AM	#11
b_k Übernerd Posts: 238 Karma: 74 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Device: iRex iLiad	um, actually you need to understand a bit of english to get through the order process at iRex. So, what would be the problem? Aside from that, in other cases they linked to english sites (OpenSIMPad for one that I remember, and probably a lot more I don't know now)

01-21-2007, 11:21 AM	#12
ali Addict Posts: 302 Karma: 116 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Iliad, dude!	I just read the article. I think it's a very friendly article, actually somewhat overpositive. A surprise: IRex is aware of the annoying buzzing sound some Iliad's make, and is running a recall? I didn't knew that. I had the impression that some informations in the article were taken from iRex announcements, or just assumed without being tested. (It mentions adding content over LAN/Wifi, and 16h battery time, or using the Iliad to carry all the publications you need for your dissertation / your article around) Reg. not mentioning mobileread: This magazine usually doesn't point to user communities in device reviews. It often points to english sources.

01-24-2007, 09:18 AM	#13
joblack Wizard Posts: 1,746 Karma: 4382514 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere on earth Device: Onyx Boox Tab X	The c´t is normally very reliable in they reviews. For the iLiad I cannot rate this yet -> I´m still saving money for my first iLiad ;o).

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