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Old 07-14-2010, 07:56 AM   #1
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Exclamation Publishers are listening...

Folks, if you're on twitter, follow (and contribute to) the hashtag #dearpublisher

Readers, booksellers, authors, etc are telling publishers what they want, what they don't want, and what they want to see changed. Come give your opinions because a bunch of them are actually listening.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:21 AM   #2
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I haven't seen a shread of evidence they are listening.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:44 AM   #3
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On the contrary, I've been engaging with them. Some are a little defensive, but they are listening.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:06 PM   #4
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On the contrary, I've been engaging with them. Some are a little defensive, but they are listening.
Resulting actions are needed. I'm not sure the big publishers are desperate enough yet.

I'd guess they'll listen to the people/arguments that suit them, and ignore or rationalize away the rest.

There's already a lot of communication out there .
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:46 PM   #5
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If they're listening, then why can't I get someone to accept the file listing all of the errors which I found in Tor Books' ebook edition of _Space Cadet_?
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:53 PM   #6
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If they're listening, then why can't I get someone to accept the file listing all of the errors which I found in Tor Books' ebook edition of _Space Cadet_?
Publishers aren't interested in mistakes, they would just ignore anything you sent because it would mean extra work for no extra money. You need to send it to the writer instead, let them bug the publisher about it if they have any influence over them.

Just out of interest, what would be the legality of creating something like a PAR file that would correct the mistakes in a commercial ebook and hosting it on your own website (or on here)? The only problem I can see would be in breaking the DRM.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:02 PM   #7
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... what they want to see changed. Come give your opinions because a bunch of them are actually listening.
Hahahahahaa. Good one :-D
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:07 PM   #8
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Publishers aren't interested in mistakes, they would just ignore anything you sent because it would mean extra work for no extra money. You need to send it to the writer instead, let them bug the publisher about it if they have any influence over them.
In the case of the book WillAdams mentioned, the writer has been dead for years!

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Old 07-14-2010, 02:12 PM   #9
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In the case of the book WillAdams mentioned, the writer has been dead for years!

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Old 07-14-2010, 02:35 PM   #10
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I used to spend energy telling the industry what was wrong. Then I realized it wasn't my industry, and it had very little to do with my actual reading and writing habits. Now I just go to Kindle and Smashwords and let my readers be the boss!

Good luck, though, David.

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Old 07-14-2010, 02:51 PM   #11
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:01 PM   #13
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Publishers are listening...

... to the champagne corks popping?
... to the sound of one hand clapping?
... to their evil twin saying everything is ok?
... to their lawyers saying everything is okay (oops, I repeated myself)?
... to an uncomfortably loud ticking sound?

So, ok, hand us an easy target and we'll take a shot.

I hope, David, you are right and publishers ARE listening. It's not that complicated: start thinking like a consumer, and stop thinking like a publisher pre-2007 ... and figure out how to monetize the goods and services the consumer wants today. You have a great resource: the best and most desirable author's and alive and, in some jurisdictions, dead for up to 70 years ... surely there is a way to make money on that ....
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On the contrary, I've been engaging with them. Some are a little defensive, but they are listening.
Isn't it a pity that they are not responding in any active way to clean up the shoddy ebooks they so often put out - or even responding to the complaints we make about them.

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Isn't it a pity that they are not responding in any active way to clean up the shoddy ebooks they so often put out - or even responding to the complaints we make about them.

Regards, Alex

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