Is the Internet Running Out of Space?

RWood · 03-30-2009, 11:19 AM

While it seems limitless, Sean Silverthorne interviews Benjamin G. Edelman about the current problems with IP addresses and their almost exhausted supply under IPv4 in a recent HBS Working Knowledge piece on Research and Knowledge titled When the Internet Runs Out of IP Addresses While the future move to IPv6 will add trillions of new addresses, the road from here to there may be a bumpy one.

I found it an interesting interview and it touched on a problem that I had never thought of before.

zelda_pinwheel · 03-30-2009, 11:23 AM

it had to happen sometime...

in france we used to have 8 digit telephone numbers. about 10 years ago they ran out of new numbers so they added a 2-digit geographical prefixe to make more. of course before the 8 digit numbers they were even shorter. i imagine with all the cell-phones (some people have more than one) we'll eventually end up with 20 digit or more telephone numbers... thank goodness for speed dial !

meanwhile, here is what happens when you run out of ip addresses.

RWood · 03-30-2009, 12:40 PM

When I was a kid our telephone number was an exchange with four digits (Diamond 4888) and by 1960 this had grown to seven digits. Now we use a three digit prefix called an area code giving us a ten digit number.

vivaldirules · 03-30-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

meanwhile, here is what happens when you run out of ip addresses.

Oh, I love that! I'm gonna do just what it said - tomorrow.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 03-30-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

it had to happen sometime...

in france we used to have 8 digit telephone numbers. about 10 years ago they ran out of new numbers so they added a 2-digit geographical prefixe to make more. of course before the 8 digit numbers they were even shorter. i imagine with all the cell-phones (some people have more than one) we'll eventually end up with 20 digit or more telephone numbers... thank goodness for speed dial !

They did smething like that in London a while back, then realised that what they'd done didn't solve the problem and had to go and change the numbers all over again...

Quote:

meanwhile, here is what happens when you run out of ip addresses.

Brilliant

desertgrandma · 03-30-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWood

When I was a kid our telephone number was an exchange with four digits (Diamond 4888) and by 1960 this had grown to seven digits. Now we use a three digit prefix called an area code giving us a ten digit number.

Does anyone else remember their first phone number? Mine was

PRospect 7-3497

And, on some older movies, they just ask for "457" or something like that.

Ervserver · 03-30-2009, 02:48 PM

only phone number I remember from my youth was from from Hee Haw, br549

mjh215 · 03-30-2009, 03:02 PM

I can remember 867-5309...

I personally don't think there is going to be transition problems, at least not to the masses. There are plenty of ways this is already going on, simple encapsulation, etc. However to admins and techs it can be a pain...

-MJ

Oh, and Transilvania 65000

desertgrandma · 03-30-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjh215

I can remember 867-5309...

I personally don't think there is going to be transition problems, at least not to the masses. There are plenty of ways this is already going on, simple encapsulation, etc. However to admins and techs it can be a pain...

-MJ

Oh, and Transilvania 65000

Pennsylvania 6-5000!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXGQNm4EKoc

Lady Blue · 03-30-2009, 03:33 PM

Our first phone number wasn't a phone number. There were only names. There was no dial on the phone of any kind. You just picked up the receiver and the local operator on duty would say hello to you by name and asked you WHO you wanted to talk to, not what number you wanted. We had "party lines" for awhile also - talk about GOSSIP!

Wait - this has nothing to do with the internet running out of space. Just blowin' with the wind here.

Sorry . . . carry on.

Greg Anos · 03-30-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

it had to happen sometime...

in france we used to have 8 digit telephone numbers. about 10 years ago they ran out of new numbers so they added a 2-digit geographical prefixe to make more. of course before the 8 digit numbers they were even shorter. i imagine with all the cell-phones (some people have more than one) we'll eventually end up with 20 digit or more telephone numbers... thank goodness for speed dial !

meanwhile, here is what happens when you run out of ip addresses.

Shouldn't there be a resturant listing there?

desertgrandma · 03-30-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Blue

Our first phone number wasn't a phone number. There were only names. There was no dial on the phone of any kind. You just picked up the receiver and the local operator on duty would say hello to you by name and asked you WHO you wanted to talk to, not what number you wanted. We had "party lines" for awhile also - talk about GOSSIP!

Wait - this has nothing to do with the internet running out of space. Just blowin' with the wind here.

Sorry . . . carry on.

I must have a talk with Raveene about your avatar........

ravenne · 03-30-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Blue

Our first phone number wasn't a phone number. There were only names. There was no dial on the phone of any kind. You just picked up the receiver and the local operator on duty would say hello to you by name and asked you WHO you wanted to talk to, not what number you wanted. We had "party lines" for awhile also - talk about GOSSIP!

Wait - this has nothing to do with the internet running out of space. Just blowin' with the wind here.

Sorry . . . carry on.

Well, well, here´s your new avatar.... ;

desertgrandma · 03-30-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenne

Well, well, here´s your new avatar.... ;

C'mon, Lady Blue, join us!

DixieGal · 03-30-2009, 04:20 PM

Jenny Jenny's phone number is 867-530ny-a-nyin.

Don't you hate when someone throws a song phrase into your head?

03-30-2009, 11:19 AM	#1
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	Is the Internet Running Out of Space? While it seems limitless, Sean Silverthorne interviews Benjamin G. Edelman about the current problems with IP addresses and their almost exhausted supply under IPv4 in a recent HBS Working Knowledge piece on Research and Knowledge titled When the Internet Runs Out of IP Addresses While the future move to IPv6 will add trillions of new addresses, the road from here to there may be a bumpy one. I found it an interesting interview and it touched on a problem that I had never thought of before.

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03-30-2009, 11:23 AM	#2
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	it had to happen sometime... in france we used to have 8 digit telephone numbers. about 10 years ago they ran out of new numbers so they added a 2-digit geographical prefixe to make more. of course before the 8 digit numbers they were even shorter. i imagine with all the cell-phones (some people have more than one) we'll eventually end up with 20 digit or more telephone numbers... thank goodness for speed dial ! meanwhile, here is what happens when you run out of ip addresses.

03-30-2009, 12:40 PM	#3
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	When I was a kid our telephone number was an exchange with four digits (Diamond 4888) and by 1960 this had grown to seven digits. Now we use a three digit prefix called an area code giving us a ten digit number.

03-30-2009, 02:48 PM	#7
Ervserver Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 1008294 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch	only phone number I remember from my youth was from from Hee Haw, br549

03-30-2009, 03:02 PM	#8
mjh215 Guru Posts: 988 Karma: 12653 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: None of your business	I can remember 867-5309... I personally don't think there is going to be transition problems, at least not to the masses. There are plenty of ways this is already going on, simple encapsulation, etc. However to admins and techs it can be a pain... -MJ Oh, and Transilvania 65000

03-30-2009, 03:33 PM	#10
Lady Blue the snarky blue one Posts: 6,001 Karma: 3877825 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: deep in the heart Device: PRS500, 505 & 600, PRST1 & T2, Kindle PW, Moto Razr, Galaxy Tab 2-10"	Our first phone number wasn't a phone number. There were only names. There was no dial on the phone of any kind. You just picked up the receiver and the local operator on duty would say hello to you by name and asked you WHO you wanted to talk to, not what number you wanted. We had "party lines" for awhile also - talk about GOSSIP! Wait - this has nothing to do with the internet running out of space. Just blowin' with the wind here. Sorry . . . carry on.

03-30-2009, 04:20 PM	#15
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	Jenny Jenny's phone number is 867-530ny-a-nyin. Don't you hate when someone throws a song phrase into your head?

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