Best Buy maybe banned from selling iPad or how Apple is expanding the "Walled Garden" - Page 4

Dulin's Books · 04-11-2011, 11:12 AM

I agree that Best Buy uses some unethical business practices. This just doesnt happen to be one of them.

grumpy3b · 04-11-2011, 01:09 PM

I just got caught up on the tread and seems like everyone was just doing their job this time around. Darn, my two least favorite companies (I do like the iPad and the Touch though) in bed together could have made for a really funny classic two battling evil empire and the misadventures of their minions type scenario. Some days it seems like I never get to have any fun!

Well, back to trying to decide on a color tablet device. And even with this fiasco the iPad 1 is still in the mix given the price of the refurbs on the Apple site. but I worry my credit card would reject any charges from the Apple Store. On-principle if not on-purpose.

leebase · 04-11-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Exactly what they have in mind, control everything. This is why I hate them.

How is Apple the bad guy in THIS story? It is BB, not Apple, that is lying to customers about not having stock when they really do.

An unconfirmed rumor says that Apple is retaliating by not giving BB any more iPads to sell SINCE BB isn't actually selling them. It's a rumor, unsubstantiated -- but EVEN SO -- if it WERE true, it would be Apple doing the RIGHT THING by it's customers.

You have folks walking into a store to buy an iPad, the store HAS iPads, but doesn't want to sell them just yet. How is THAT a good thing for the customer, and how would Apple be the bad guy for not supporting this practice?

Lee

kennyc · 04-11-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by leebase

How is Apple the bad guy in THIS story? It is BB, not Apple, that is lying to customers about not having stock when they really do.
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Lee

If Apple is the one controlling the number sold per day as stated in the post I was responding to then that is how. And fits the mold.

leebase · 04-11-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

If Apple is the one controlling the number sold per day as stated in the post I was responding to then that is how. And fits the mold.

There is nothing in the story to say that Apple is holding back inventory. They are shipping iPad's out as fast as they can make them.

Lee

kennyc · 04-11-2011, 04:09 PM

Do you ever actually ever read in context?

Oh and you know that because?

Bilbo1967 · 04-11-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Do you ever actually ever read in context?

Oh and you know that because?

Personally, I think it's cool that Mr Jobs takes the time to post on little old MR

Hellmark · 04-11-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Do you ever actually ever read in context?

Oh and you know that because?

It has been widely reported that Apple has had production issues due to the Japan 'quakes. Even if you discount what Apple has to say about the issue, you could easily figure out the same info on your own. There have been numerous studies and teardown reports of the iPad 2, with information on what parts are manufactured by who. Going off that, you can then find which companies are currently not producing at full capacity, or at all, due to the quakes.

queentess · 04-11-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

I can understand some reasoning for what Best Buy does. When I worked at Toys R Us, we ran into similar issues when the Wii was hot. If the Wii was going to be in an ad, we had to make sure that we had some on hand. Usually they would try and time the shipments, to where they'd get through the system, and on the shelves at the store right when the sale started, but not always. Granted, we had advanced notice of when they would be putting it in the ads, and if it wasn't going to be, we could sell all we had.

This makes a lot more sense than a sales quota limiting the number allowed to be sold.

kennyc · 04-11-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Personally, I think it's cool that Mr Jobs takes the time to post on little old MR

grumpy3b · 04-11-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

It has been widely reported that Apple has had production issues due to the Japan 'quakes. Even if you discount what Apple has to say about the issue, you could easily figure out the same info on your own. There have been numerous studies and teardown reports of the iPad 2, with information on what parts are manufactured by who. Going off that, you can then find which companies are currently not producing at full capacity, or at all, due to the quakes.

there is a lot of that issue. I believe Gorilla Glass, I know not used on the iPad, had a plant either in the area of the nuclear plant or in the prefect hit by the tsunami which has all but stopped many of their products.

And Apple too did have a few components produced in Japan but they can be sourced from other makers in Japan or outside Japan. I am sure Apple and every other brand with important products scheduled for release this year are doing.

I did not re-read the iSupply article but as I recall they, or maybe it was another source, indicated that there was a pretty large supply of components which had been pre-produced to allow for several months of full production before sourcing became an issue.

kennyc · 04-11-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

It has been widely reported that Apple has had production issues due to the Japan 'quakes. Even if you discount what Apple has to say about the issue, you could easily figure out the same info on your own. There have been numerous studies and teardown reports of the iPad 2, with information on what parts are manufactured by who. Going off that, you can then find which companies are currently not producing at full capacity, or at all, due to the quakes.

Okay, but that has nothing to do with who might be behind the alleged stock-room hoarding.

grumpy3b · 04-11-2011, 04:44 PM

I suspect on thing might be true, we won't see the iPad 3 this year. It might simply be impossible to fill the demand for iPad 2 as well as other devices and release yet another new device. Apple might have to choose which is a higher priority. Of course this assumes there was actually going to be an iPad 3 or whatever new Apple device later this year.

Barty · 04-12-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Okay, but that has nothing to do with who might be behind the alleged stock-room hoarding.

Yes apple is hoarding their stock of iPads. Because they're a modest bunch who hate to brag that they've sold X millions of iThings in Y days. You just never see that from apple.

Seriously, all the apple hate around here is turning me into a fanboy like some kind of allergic reaction.

tubemonkey · 04-12-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Barty

Seriously, all the apple hate around here is turning me into a fanboy like some kind of allergic reaction.

As a happy owner of an iPod touch 4th gen, I can say with certainty that I also hate on Apple.

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04-11-2011, 11:12 AM	#46
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	I agree that Best Buy uses some unethical business practices. This just doesnt happen to be one of them.

04-11-2011, 01:09 PM	#47
grumpy3b Banned Posts: 246 Karma: 14967 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 2 (x2), Kindle 1, a couple old PDAs	I just got caught up on the tread and seems like everyone was just doing their job this time around. Darn, my two least favorite companies (I do like the iPad and the Touch though) in bed together could have made for a really funny classic two battling evil empire and the misadventures of their minions type scenario. Some days it seems like I never get to have any fun! Well, back to trying to decide on a color tablet device. And even with this fiasco the iPad 1 is still in the mix given the price of the refurbs on the Apple site. but I worry my credit card would reject any charges from the Apple Store. On-principle if not on-purpose.

04-11-2011, 04:09 PM	#51
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Do you ever actually ever read in context? Oh and you know that because?

04-11-2011, 04:44 PM	#58
grumpy3b Banned Posts: 246 Karma: 14967 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 2 (x2), Kindle 1, a couple old PDAs	I suspect on thing might be true, we won't see the iPad 3 this year. It might simply be impossible to fill the demand for iPad 2 as well as other devices and release yet another new device. Apple might have to choose which is a higher priority. Of course this assumes there was actually going to be an iPad 3 or whatever new Apple device later this year.

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