|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
03-13-2011, 09:12 AM | #1 |
Banned
Posts: 760
Karma: 51034
Join Date: Feb 2009
|
How long before we see a LIMIT on the number of reads we are "allowed"
Given the recent move by HarperCollins to limit the number of times an ebook can be loaned by libraries, how long before some bean-counter gets the idea to limit the number of times the consumer can read, or even access to download, our ebooks?
Don't scoff because I see this as a potential move to manufacture new revenue centers out of old purchases. It's all part of the current business models of ever accelerating revenue growth rates. Making a steady profit is no longer good enough after all. Profit growth rate must be forever accelerating with steady growth being considered a failure today. And no faux indignation allowed. Yes, yes we know already, "if they ever do this you won't buy anymore ebooks" blah blah blah -- you will and you know it. |
03-13-2011, 09:17 AM | #2 |
Rogue Bookseller
Posts: 20
Karma: 260
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Rhode Island
Device: Apple iPad, iPhone, B&N nook
|
This is something I think could happen. There is a potential benefit if it does -book clubs. Since you can only read it once, then you could pay a set price for a number of books similar to what's done now or even go further by paying monthly like a music service. Im a firm believer in owning what I buy but I see this as merely taking "borrowing" from the library a giant step further.
|
03-13-2011, 09:18 AM | #3 |
Wizard
Posts: 2,951
Karma: 3000001
Join Date: Feb 2011
Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire
|
i completely agree with the profit growth. it's like they want more and more, as if you could eat money for breakfast, lunch and dinner -_-
well, greed is never-ending. as for the number of reads of an ebook, it's quite possible. humans have been known to do immensely stupid things. for now, there are enough PD books that interest me to keep me reading for a good while. still, if they do this, then i'm going back to buying physical books. i'll make space in the house if i have to :| i think it's ridiculous to limit the number of reads of an ebook that you paid for. |
03-13-2011, 09:24 AM | #4 |
Fanatic
Posts: 528
Karma: 2530000
Join Date: Dec 2010
Device: Sony PRS-T3, PRS-650, Vaio Tap 11, iPad Mini
|
I do consider this as entirely possible. However, it would just motivate more people to get books from the darknet.
|
03-13-2011, 09:28 AM | #5 |
eBook Enthusiast
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383043
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
|
What proportion of your books do you read more than once? With me, the figure is very low. I have a few old favourites, that I read over and over, but the overwhelming majority of books I'll never read again.
|
03-13-2011, 09:32 AM | #6 |
Member Retired
Posts: 1,999
Karma: 11348924
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Limbo
Device: none
|
Well I'd say it's up to us the people to douse their greed. There are "dousers" out there called P2P, Torrent and so on ...
|
03-13-2011, 09:42 AM | #7 | |||
Banned
Posts: 760
Karma: 51034
Join Date: Feb 2009
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Maybe that was the underlying sub-text in Jobs' now infamous comment "nobody reads anymore". Was he really saying nobody reads anymore because the publishers are completely clueless in knowing their customers and evolving with the rest of the globe. |
|||
03-13-2011, 09:42 AM | #8 |
Wizard
Posts: 1,516
Karma: 2567610
Join Date: Oct 2009
Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD
|
What proportion of my books do I read more than once?
Probably 1 to 2%. Heck, I have a increasing number of eBooks at the moment that I still haven't even read once. I'm not sure it matters though. That is simply a restriction I would not be willing to agree to. If I WANT to read my books 153 times I blankety-blank will and I wouldn't buy a book that I couldn't. |
03-13-2011, 09:49 AM | #9 | |
Banned
Posts: 760
Karma: 51034
Join Date: Feb 2009
|
Quote:
Second, the vast majority of my books have be re-read at least once, most all 2+ times. I do wonder if there exists every intention of publishers to bugger with formats and firmware to ensure obsolesce of existing content over time. Naw, the way Amazon is setup would seem to eliminate that option because all that needs done is to re-download a book in the new format. Well, unless the license we agreed to only specifies the current Amazon format will be supported in that license of the book. Ahhh, I've got it publishers will begin to licence their own file formats to the device makers. That is where I think Amazon is on our side. By controlling the file formats they seem to have done an end-around on that idea. For now anyway, which brings me back to reading limits in the future. |
|
03-13-2011, 09:51 AM | #10 |
eBook Enthusiast
Posts: 85,544
Karma: 93383043
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6
|
This is all pure paranoia, IMHO. Nobody is suggesting, and nor is there the slightest evidence to suggest that anyone is even THINKING of suggesting, that such a restriction be imposed.
The Overdrive library limits are a completely different situation, and cannot sensibly be used to infer that any additional restrictions are on their way for commercially-sold eBooks. Haven't we got enough things to talk about with "the real world", rather than panicking about imaginary "wrongs"? |
03-13-2011, 09:51 AM | #11 |
Connoisseur
Posts: 83
Karma: 85586
Join Date: Nov 2010
Device: Kindle 3
|
I think a better view on it is not so much how many times do I read a book, but how many times are books that I have bought read? That question drives up the readings per book quite a bit in my experience. Some years ago I had many co-workers with overlapping tastes in SF. My copy of Snow Crash was probably read at least a dozen times, making a few trips to remote offices in the tan envelopes of the inter-office mail. The median read count on any SF I bought in that period was at least two, and probably three.
As I'm not with that company any more, nor even in that region, my former co-workers are probably buying books from some of those authors I used to lend to them. |
03-13-2011, 09:52 AM | #12 | |
Wizard
Posts: 2,951
Karma: 3000001
Join Date: Feb 2011
Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire
|
Quote:
although if they do insist on pushing this, why not just issue a "rental" version of ebooks (and a 'rental' price) instead of implementing such a policy across the board? of course, i assumed that the OP meant it as an across the board thing. @OP: all this greed and paranoia is driving me nuts it's like Harry said. we've got enough things to worry about still, well, we live in a capitalist society. businesses want as much profit as possible. that's what my business texts all say Last edited by wyndslash; 03-13-2011 at 09:54 AM. |
|
03-13-2011, 09:54 AM | #13 | |
Banned
Posts: 760
Karma: 51034
Join Date: Feb 2009
|
Quote:
|
|
03-13-2011, 09:56 AM | #14 |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 27,547
Karma: 193191846
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD
|
Well if it does ever happen, there would have to be different "classes" of ebooks set up. I mean who's ever going to purchase an electronic dictionary or a cook(e)book that they can only read once? Or any kind of reference type book?
Publishers may be greedy bastards, but even they know that there's a line in the sand (even if its exact location is undetermined at this point) where over-restricting is going to cut into their bottom-line. They may be willing to cross that line with lending institutions because frankly; they know they can get away with. It's whole 'nother ball game on the consumer side of things. |
03-13-2011, 09:57 AM | #15 |
Wizard
Posts: 2,951
Karma: 3000001
Join Date: Feb 2011
Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire
|
@OP: Oh yeah, and we better stop giving the big wigs more ideas they can be dangerous in the wrong hands
this is a fun discussion though |
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
element "img" not allowed in this context | graniton | Calibre | 5 | 05-14-2012 11:39 PM |
element "span" not allowed in this context | jihwan | Calibre | 4 | 07-17-2010 09:25 PM |
Asked if he still reads books on paper, Jeff Bezos says: "Not if I can help it." | taglines | News | 0 | 12-29-2009 07:48 AM |