Seriousness oh hell! a plane went into a building in TX

kindlekitten · 02-18-2010, 12:43 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/18/tex...ex.html?hpt=T1

news just breaking

poohbear_nc · 02-18-2010, 12:44 PM

and yesterday - in California?

what's going on these days?

desertgrandma · 02-18-2010, 12:49 PM

Crap.

Lets not just take our own life.

Lets take as many others as we can with us.

kindlekitten · 02-18-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

and yesterday - in California?

what's going on these days?

I missed that! this one is deliberate

poohbear_nc · 02-18-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I missed that! this one is deliberate

Yeah - the guy set his own home on fire (with wife & kids inside - rescued luckily) and then flew into a building!

kindlekitten · 02-18-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I missed that! this one is deliberate

ok, I found that one, but as you have seen, this other is deliberate. I'm sure we all get edgy when this stuff starts happpening

FireRunner · 02-18-2010, 01:18 PM

There's always a nut out there. Good thing, for the moment, no one was killed or seriously injured in the office building. Too many sad events these days, like school shootings. But, this shows people can't be controlled. The world isn't as safe as some presume it to be.

dsvick · 02-18-2010, 02:50 PM

It is too bad that this has to happen. There are enough avenues for seeking help that this should not have to happen. However, the fact that he (allegedly) set his house on fire, (allegedly) tried to kill family members, and (allegedly) deliberately flew his plane into an occupied building implies some pretty serious anger management issues.

Not to be considered thoughtless or uncaring, but you have to wish sometimes that instead of trying to take as many people with them, that these people would just nip off to bed, swallow a handful of pills, and go quietly.

Moejoe · 02-18-2010, 03:10 PM

What's terrifying is that his last statement on his personal website is not rambling or insane, but actually makes sense.

His name was Joe Stack. He crashed his plane into the IRS building. This was a political act, not a suicide.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...102stack1.html

desertgrandma · 02-18-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

What's terrifying is that his last statement on his personal website is not rambling or insane, but actually makes sense.

His name was Joe Stack. He crashed his plane into the IRS building. This was a political act, not a suicide.

I don't care what his "reasoning" is.

I hope he burns in whatever hell he believes in.

You have problems? DEAL with them.

Do not make others pay for your lot in life.

Moejoe · 02-18-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

I don't care what his "reasoning" is.

I hope he burns in whatever hell he believes in.

You have problems? DEAL with them.

Do not make others pay for your lot in life.

That's why I said it was terrifying. That someone so lucid and cogent could make a decision such as this. And it wasn't just his problems, but a problem he saw with the whole system that prompted his action, again a terrifying outcome from what seems an otherwise intelligent person (at face value).

EDIT: And what I find even more terrifying is that his opinions aren't out-of-the-ordinary. He's not a religious zealot or a fundamentalist nutball who thinks the 'End Times' are nigh or that he'll receive <insert no of Virgins here> once he gets to heaven. He's basically railing against taxes and the government. His complaints aren't unreasonable, even if his actions are totally reprehensible. Which makes me wonder how many of the people I know, or how many of the people we all know are capable of such actions. What was it that made him take that extra step out of anger and annoyance and into mass murder/suicide? What does it take, and how many more of these will occur in the coming years?

desertgrandma · 02-18-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

That's why I said it was terrifying. That someone so lucid and cogent could make a decision such as this. And it wasn't just his problems, but a problem he saw with the whole system that prompted his action, again a terrifying outcome from what seems an otherwise intelligent person (at face value).

Sorry Moejoe. I just lost it there for a moment.

Seriously. Will this change anything? NO. No lucid person would feel like it did.

No one knows what lies behind the mask of 'lucidity' that people wear.

wodin · 02-18-2010, 03:57 PM

If he hadn't failed to snuff his progeny (thank God!), he would be a prime candidate for a Darwin Award!

Katti's Cat · 02-18-2010, 08:02 PM

And another nutter had his day. Why do they think they can change something by killing themselves as well as trying to do harm to as many people as they can?

Laz116 · 02-18-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Katti's Cat

And another nutter had his day. Why do they think they can change something by killing themselves as well as trying to do harm to as many people as they can?

Probably because they are so frustrated, they don't think straight.

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poohbear_nc Now what? Posts: 58,877 Karma: 135181808 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Durham, NC Device: Every Kindle Ever Made & To Be Made!	and yesterday - in California? what's going on these days?

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FireRunner eAddict Posts: 57 Karma: 54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington DC Device: Nook	There's always a nut out there. Good thing, for the moment, no one was killed or seriously injured in the office building. Too many sad events these days, like school shootings. But, this shows people can't be controlled. The world isn't as safe as some presume it to be.

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dsvick Wizard Posts: 2,737 Karma: 635747 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio, USA Device: PRS-900	It is too bad that this has to happen. There are enough avenues for seeking help that this should not have to happen. However, the fact that he (allegedly) set his house on fire, (allegedly) tried to kill family members, and (allegedly) deliberately flew his plane into an occupied building implies some pretty serious anger management issues. Not to be considered thoughtless or uncaring, but you have to wish sometimes that instead of trying to take as many people with them, that these people would just nip off to bed, swallow a handful of pills, and go quietly.

02-18-2010, 03:10 PM	#9
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	What's terrifying is that his last statement on his personal website is not rambling or insane, but actually makes sense. His name was Joe Stack. He crashed his plane into the IRS building. This was a political act, not a suicide. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...102stack1.html

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