how to share ebooks i bought - Page 5

danskmacabre · 05-22-2012, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by taming

I share my digital books in much the same way I shared my pBooks in the past. I meet with my friend, hand him or her my older Kobo device with the book on it. A few weeks later we meet-up again, and I get it back. It works quite well.

I used to buy a physical book, read it. If I knew I wasn't intending to re-read it I'd give it to a friend who would read it and pass it on. I would also get a slow, but steady stream of books from friends in a similar fashion.
Now I don't buy physical books, I can't do that anymore, which is a shame.

NickyWithNook · 05-22-2012, 08:35 AM

I read Kindle books on my iPad, and my husband reads Kindle books on his iPad. We are registered to the same account, and I can send the books to one or the other, or both.

He also reads Nook books on his iPad, and I read Nook books on my Nook of course. We just share an account and wade through each other's books.

I set up a different account for my daughter, but the first time I transferred a book from mine to hers, it asked for the name and credit card number the book was bought under, and now I can transfer any books to hers. That's a way to legally share as well. You have to trust them with your credit card details, so it would only be someone very close, and I imagine it's limited to how many people? I've only done it with my daughter so I haven't tested that.

Then there's the lendme feature on the nooks.

Really, the best bet might be to tell them it's good and have them look it up on their library ebook site. If theirs isn't very good, there are some libraries that will grant cards to non-residents for a fee. You end up on a waiting list usually, but if you're willing to wait a bit, you can get most of the well known books.

HarryT · 05-22-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyWithNook

I read Kindle books on my iPad, and my husband reads Kindle books on his iPad. We are registered to the same account, and I can send the books to one or the other, or both.

He also reads Nook books on his iPad, and I read Nook books on my Nook of course. We just share an account and wade through each other's books.

I set up a different account for my daughter, but the first time I transferred a book from mine to hers, it asked for the name and credit card number the book was bought under, and now I can transfer any books to hers. That's a way to legally share as well. You have to trust them with your credit card details, so it would only be someone very close, and I imagine it's limited to how many people? I've only done it with my daughter so I haven't tested that.

As you very rightly point out, there are all sorts of entirely legal ways to share books, without needing to resort to piracy.

andyh2000 · 05-22-2012, 09:19 AM

I've just had cause to go to the O'Reilly site (to get an update to an ebook I bought) and noticed they say this in the help section:

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Can I lend an O'Reilly ebook to another person?

If you buy an O'Reilly ebook from oreilly.com, you may lend it to another person, provided that you do not retain any copies of the book after you lend it. This is the same as the situation when you lend a used print copy—when you lend the copy, you deliver it to the buyer and no longer have a copy in your library. If you have bought a hard copy/ebook bundle, you may of course retain the hard copy, if you sell the ebook.

Interesting, both for the permission to lend an ebook as long as you delete your local copy (and I'm sure they're aware you can still download it again from O'Reilly), and for the fact that they think you can sell an ebook you bought from them. I guess this makes them encouragers of piracy...

Andrew

Laridae · 05-22-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyWithNook

If theirs isn't very good, there are some libraries that will grant cards to non-residents for a fee. You end up on a waiting list usually, but if you're willing to wait a bit, you can get most of the well known books.

I agree with the jist of what you're saying but this last part is not quite true. I understand that only about 2 out of the 6 main publishing houses license their books for use in public libraries. So there is no guarantee that most books you are interested in will become available there.

eBooks from Public Libraries are only a subset, at best, of the total of all eBooks available.

NickyWithNook · 05-22-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Laridae

I agree with the jist of what you're saying but this last part is not quite true. I understand that only about 2 out of the 6 main publishing houses license their books for use in public libraries. So there is no guarantee that most books you are interested in will become available there.
eBooks from Public Libraries are only a subset, at best, of the total of all eBooks available.

I wasn't aware of that! I guess I haven't investigated that much. Thanks for the info.

Giggleton · 05-22-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by andyh2000

I've just had cause to go to the O'Reilly site (to get an update to an ebook I bought) and noticed they say this in the help section:

Interesting, both for the permission to lend an ebook as long as you delete your local copy (and I'm sure they're aware you can still download it again from O'Reilly), and for the fact that they think you can sell an ebook you bought from them. I guess this makes them encouragers of piracy...

Andrew

I think we can all agree that only having one copy of an ebook and then transferring it around to as many people as possible is not piracy. Let us do this then.

ProfCrash · 05-22-2012, 03:50 PM

No we cannot. That is piracy. The only way for me to share my copy of an e-book is having someone share an account with me or lending them the book using the option offered my by Amazon. Otherwise, it is piracy.

Some bookstores have a different standard, such as O'Rielly, but then the e-book can be given to one person and I have to delete the book from my account, device, and computer so I do not retain a copy of the book.

andyh2000 · 05-22-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

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Some bookstores have a different standard, such as O'Rielly, but then the e-book can be given to one person and I have to delete the book from my account, device, and computer so I do not retain a copy of the book.

They don't say anything about deleting it from your account. In fact, I don't think you can.

Andrew

Giggleton · 05-22-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

No we cannot. That is piracy. The only way for me to share my copy of an e-book is having someone share an account with me or lending them the book using the option offered my by Amazon. Otherwise, it is piracy.

So in theory, all we need is as many accounts as there are books and then let one person at a time have access to an account? That sounds like a decent setup for a library funded by tax dollars, or a website funded by advertising revenue.

That doesn't sound like piracy to me, in fact it sounds like a decent way to share ebooks... especially if revenues are shared with the creators.

Kumabjorn · 05-23-2012, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Laridae

eBooks from Public Libraries are only a subset, at best, of the total of all eBooks available.

Isn't that true for printed books as well?

Sydney's Mom · 05-23-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I share my account with my Mother so we can share books. And I buy her books, she paid for college, I can pay for her reading material.

Awwww, how sweet.

Sydney's Mom · 05-23-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by applesauce

i know changing minds are difficult but open talks are a starting point for change to be looked at. I think nobody is saying make copies of books and torrent them or share them on a forum like this or even your closest 100 friends. I feel what people are saying is the law needs changes to make it your property to give to your family and friends when you have finished with it like a paper book.

But it is not like a paperbook. With a paperbook, only one person can read it at a time. Unless your friend is reading over your shoulder, they have to wait until you finish, and if you are a slow reader, perhaps they will go out and buy their own copy.

But with an ebook, if you make a copy, both you and your friend can read it at the same time. You would have to buy a second pbook to be able to do that. And you can't delete a book you bought.

Laridae · 05-23-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Isn't that true for printed books as well?

Yes, but not in the context I was talking about (refer back to the issue I was replying to)

Afaik all 6 of the main publishing houses are well represented with their most popular pBooks at public libraries.

Shaggy · 05-25-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

As you very rightly point out, there are all sorts of entirely legal ways to share books, without needing to resort to piracy.

There are (at least):

1) Legal ways to share books that the Publishers approve of.
2) Legal ways to share books that the Publishers do not approve of.
3) Illegal ways to share books.

Of course, some people mistakenly believe that #2 and #3 are the same thing.

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05-22-2012, 08:35 AM	#62
NickyWithNook Guru Posts: 749 Karma: 3942770 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: American living in Australia Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite (Don't use Nook anymore)	I read Kindle books on my iPad, and my husband reads Kindle books on his iPad. We are registered to the same account, and I can send the books to one or the other, or both. He also reads Nook books on his iPad, and I read Nook books on my Nook of course. We just share an account and wade through each other's books. I set up a different account for my daughter, but the first time I transferred a book from mine to hers, it asked for the name and credit card number the book was bought under, and now I can transfer any books to hers. That's a way to legally share as well. You have to trust them with your credit card details, so it would only be someone very close, and I imagine it's limited to how many people? I've only done it with my daughter so I haven't tested that. Then there's the lendme feature on the nooks. Really, the best bet might be to tell them it's good and have them look it up on their library ebook site. If theirs isn't very good, there are some libraries that will grant cards to non-residents for a fee. You end up on a waiting list usually, but if you're willing to wait a bit, you can get most of the well known books.

05-22-2012, 03:50 PM	#68
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	No we cannot. That is piracy. The only way for me to share my copy of an e-book is having someone share an account with me or lending them the book using the option offered my by Amazon. Otherwise, it is piracy. Some bookstores have a different standard, such as O'Rielly, but then the e-book can be given to one person and I have to delete the book from my account, device, and computer so I do not retain a copy of the book.

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