Do you like 3D

Rob Lister · 04-21-2012, 11:02 AM

I hate 3D. At least I do for more than five minutes. It does not add to the experience, it annoys me. Oh sure, it's cool at the onset, but then it gets old.

There's a new 3D tablet coming soon to the market. They have high hopes. Let's remake Citizen Kane that way too!

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Because no gadget, work of art, or experience is complete without a 3-D option...

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog...7789/?p1=blogs

The writer was being a bit snide in that opening remark. I bet he is like me.

I hope I'm not like one of those old fogies that said TV was just a trendy fashion that it will soon fall by the wayside, along with radio and the internet.

I really, really think 3D is just a trendy fashion. I'm okay if you answer "Yes" to the poll above. I just bet you won't in ten years.

Belfaborac · 04-21-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Lister

I hope I'm not like one of those old fogies that said TV was just a trendy fashion that will soon fall by the wayside, along with radio and the internet.

You are, but then again so am I, at least in regards to 3D. I'm vaguely tempted to buy a second TV now and just put it in storage, since I think in 2 years' time there'll hardly be a non-3D set to be found. In other words I'm pretty convinced it's not a fad.

HarryT · 04-21-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Belfaborac

You are, but then again so am I, at least in regards to 3D. I'm vaguely tempted to buy a second TV now and just put it in storage, since I think in 2 years' time there'll hardly be a non-3D set to be found. In other words I'm pretty convinced it's not a fad.

But you don't have to watch 3D if you don't wish to do so - 3D is simply a capability of the device, not one that you have to use. It's like having a reader with WiFi - using the WiFi is not compulsory.

Belfaborac · 04-21-2012, 11:22 AM

Us old fogies don't care about that, we just don't want it - at all. That's what makes us old fogies.

tecweston · 04-21-2012, 11:25 AM

When a movie is released in 2D and 3D, I will only see the 2D version (the only exception to this was "Avatar," because it was being marketed as such a huge breakthrough in 3D technology. In retrospect it really didn't add anything to the movie, and distracted from the story because I was too busy noticing the 3D effects).

HarryT · 04-21-2012, 11:27 AM

Have to admit that I've never seen anything in 3D. I'd like to see a 3D movie just as a matter of interest in seeing how well it works. I might go and see the 3D version of "Titanic".

fjtorres · 04-21-2012, 11:32 AM

On the gadget side, 3D is just a (minor) extra cost but one that most of the TV vendors are starting to realize doesn't actually *sell* many extra TVs. In a business under stress that doesn't bode well for its long-term existence. So I wouldn't worry about current 3D tech crowding out 2D displays.

On the content side the picture is even dimmer for 3D (pun very much intended).
3D is extra cost, extra effort, and extra losses for the studios. Some pretty good movies in recent years have been brought down financially by 3D. And even the successful ones can rightfuly claim they would have been successful without the 3D gimmick.

Right now only motion-capture animation has a worse financial track record.
With 3D ticket sales underperforming, the industry investment in 3D could cause even bigger problems to movie-goers:

http://www.filmjunk.com/2012/03/23/p...ticket-prices/

tecweston · 04-21-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Have to admit that I've never seen anything in 3D. I'd like to see a 3D movie just as a matter of interest in seeing how well it works. I might go and see the 3D version of "Titanic".

I wish they were re-releasing Titanic in IMAX in 2D as well. I've never seen the movie and I'd like my first viewing to be on a giant IMAX screen, but I really don't wanna see it in 3D.

mikegetz · 04-21-2012, 11:43 AM

i love 3D if done properly. Avatar was truly groundbreaking, as it was the first (and so far, the only that i have seen) that was done properly.
When we left the theater, all i could think was that Cameron had just changed the medium, if not created a whole new medium.
I saw Deathly Hallows pt 2, and was quite underwhelmed. somehow i expected the stunning visuals of Avatar coupled with one of the best 10 books i have ever read ... i should have known better. I forgot part way through that it was a 3D release, until I went to adjust my glasses and there were 2 pairs on my nose.

I have tried some 3D gaming, the wife was looking to get a DS a couple of months ago, and we tried the 3Ds out ... she ended up getting an XL instead. it just didn't add to the experience.

Rob Lister · 04-21-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Belfaborac

Us old fogies don't care about that, we just don't want it - at all. That's what makes us old fogies.

Damn kids! Get outta my yard!

That's who we're becoming. And we're good with that.

One game station uses the effect a bit differently. I saw it at best buy but i'm not sure of the maker.

Using the shutter glasses, it allows two players in a 2-player game to view the entire screen; each seeing their version only. That was cool. But not worth the annoyance of wearing the glasses.

Catlady · 04-21-2012, 12:55 PM

I've only ever seen one 3D movie--Toy Story 3--in a movie theater. I wear glasses, and it was very difficult and annoying to put the ill-fitting 3D glasses over my own specs. I don't think the 3D added particularly to the movie--certainly not enough to overcome the annoyance of those glasses.

For some reason, I was very aware of the edges of the screen when watching the movie. It felt jarring somehow--like the screen should have completely filled the wall, side to side and top to bottom, to retain the illusion. I don't think I'm quite explaining what I mean, but it made me feel that on a home TV screen, 3D look even weirder.

Since I saw an animated film, I must confess that I am vaguely curious about how a non-animated film would look in 3D.

djgreedo · 04-21-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Have to admit that I've never seen anything in 3D. I'd like to see a 3D movie just as a matter of interest in seeing how well it works. I might go and see the 3D version of "Titanic".

If you're curious about 3D I wouldn't recommend watching a 2D movie converted to 3D to satisfy your curiosity.

I've seen several movies in 3D now, and I'm no longer interested or excited by it. Avatar was supposed to be THE movie to make 3D awesome but I found it no better than any other 3D movie.

Belfaborac · 04-21-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

For some reason, I was very aware of the edges of the screen when watching the movie. It felt jarring somehow--like the screen should have completely filled the wall, side to side and top to bottom, to retain the illusion.

That's exactly my experience as well. Even when proper 3D (i.e. requiring no glasses) has been "perfected", I have no intention of getting a 3D TV, since the weirdness of the juxtaposition of the movie's 3D and the real world's 3D just ruins the viewing experience for me.

That's not to say I'm universally militantly anti-3D - when decent VR/TV headsets appear (like the Sony HMZ-T1, only much better), I'll happily part with a good amount of dosh to get one.

TGS · 04-21-2012, 01:57 PM

I have yet to have any experience in fewer than four dimensions - 2D is just a trick.

Ninjalawyer · 04-21-2012, 02:02 PM

I have no particular problem with 3D, my problem is that it's used poorly most of the time. I can't recommend the movie Cave of Forgotten Dreams enough as an excellent use of 3D.

View Poll Results: Do you like 3D
Yes. It improves my experience.	21	24.42%
No. It is annoying after the first few minutes.	49	56.98%
Not Applicable. I'm a 2D creature and can't see 3D	16	18.60%
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04-21-2012, 11:22 AM	#4
Belfaborac Wizard Posts: 1,498 Karma: 5199835 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Norway Device: Sony PRS-505, PRS-950	Us old fogies don't care about that, we just don't want it - at all. That's what makes us old fogies.

04-21-2012, 11:25 AM	#5
tecweston Comic book artist Posts: 553 Karma: 1760679 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Detroit Device: Nook Glowlight, iPad, iPhone	When a movie is released in 2D and 3D, I will only see the 2D version (the only exception to this was "Avatar," because it was being marketed as such a huge breakthrough in 3D technology. In retrospect it really didn't add anything to the movie, and distracted from the story because I was too busy noticing the 3D effects).

04-21-2012, 11:27 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Have to admit that I've never seen anything in 3D. I'd like to see a 3D movie just as a matter of interest in seeing how well it works. I might go and see the 3D version of "Titanic".

04-21-2012, 11:32 AM	#7
fjtorres Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,732 Karma: 128354696 Join Date: May 2009 Location: 26 kly from Sgr A* Device: T100TA,PW2,PRS-T1,KT,FireHD 8.9,K2, PB360,BeBook One,Axim51v,TC1000	On the gadget side, 3D is just a (minor) extra cost but one that most of the TV vendors are starting to realize doesn't actually sell many extra TVs. In a business under stress that doesn't bode well for its long-term existence. So I wouldn't worry about current 3D tech crowding out 2D displays. On the content side the picture is even dimmer for 3D (pun very much intended). 3D is extra cost, extra effort, and extra losses for the studios. Some pretty good movies in recent years have been brought down financially by 3D. And even the successful ones can rightfuly claim they would have been successful without the 3D gimmick. Right now only motion-capture animation has a worse financial track record. With 3D ticket sales underperforming, the industry investment in 3D could cause even bigger problems to movie-goers: http://www.filmjunk.com/2012/03/23/p...ticket-prices/

04-21-2012, 11:43 AM	#9
mikegetz Professional Nerd Posts: 84 Karma: 280 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Middletown, OH Device: Nook WiFI, KOBO, Pandigital Novel Personal	i love 3D if done properly. Avatar was truly groundbreaking, as it was the first (and so far, the only that i have seen) that was done properly. When we left the theater, all i could think was that Cameron had just changed the medium, if not created a whole new medium. I saw Deathly Hallows pt 2, and was quite underwhelmed. somehow i expected the stunning visuals of Avatar coupled with one of the best 10 books i have ever read ... i should have known better. I forgot part way through that it was a 3D release, until I went to adjust my glasses and there were 2 pairs on my nose. I have tried some 3D gaming, the wife was looking to get a DS a couple of months ago, and we tried the 3Ds out ... she ended up getting an XL instead. it just didn't add to the experience.

04-21-2012, 12:55 PM	#11
Catlady Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,345 Karma: 52398889 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip	I've only ever seen one 3D movie--Toy Story 3--in a movie theater. I wear glasses, and it was very difficult and annoying to put the ill-fitting 3D glasses over my own specs. I don't think the 3D added particularly to the movie--certainly not enough to overcome the annoyance of those glasses. For some reason, I was very aware of the edges of the screen when watching the movie. It felt jarring somehow--like the screen should have completely filled the wall, side to side and top to bottom, to retain the illusion. I don't think I'm quite explaining what I mean, but it made me feel that on a home TV screen, 3D look even weirder. Since I saw an animated film, I must confess that I am vaguely curious about how a non-animated film would look in 3D.

04-21-2012, 01:57 PM	#14
TGS Country Member Posts: 9,058 Karma: 7676767 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denmark Device: Liseuse: Irex DR800. PRS 505 in the house, and the missus has an iPad.	I have yet to have any experience in fewer than four dimensions - 2D is just a trick.

04-21-2012, 02:02 PM	#15
Ninjalawyer Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 18573626 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Nexus 7 (2013)	I have no particular problem with 3D, my problem is that it's used poorly most of the time. I can't recommend the movie Cave of Forgotten Dreams enough as an excellent use of 3D.

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