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Old 11-12-2009, 05:39 AM   #1
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Strange Blanks in words in .epub in Sigil
Hello,

I am new with creating .epub Documents. I create .epub Documents with
calibre 0.6.20 out from .rtf Documents. This works fine but it needs some
manual corrections.

I tried to do this with sigil but I get strange results. Opening the .epub with
the sony library software seems to be okay but with sigil I get a lot of blanks
into the words of the file. If I save the document then the blanks are included
in the document.

I think the problem is the scaling of the font size - I get the same problem
with calibre if I use the fontscaling there.

Is there a possibility to switch off the scaling of the font size in sigil?
What else can I do?

Enclosed you can find screenshots showing my problem.

Thanks a lot in advance,
Regards, Franz Peter.
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:04 AM   #2
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It sounds to me like there are some odd invisible characters in your source document.

Posting the pre and post-sigl ePubs would allow a diagnosis, by looking at the code.

Or you could look at the code yourself in Sigil.

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Hello,

I am new with creating .epub Documents. I create .epub Documents with
calibre 0.6.20 out from .rtf Documents. This works fine but it needs some
manual corrections.

I tried to do this with sigil but I get strange results. Opening the .epub with
the sony library software seems to be okay but with sigil I get a lot of blanks
into the words of the file. If I save the document then the blanks are included
in the document.

I think the problem is the scaling of the font size - I get the same problem
with calibre if I use the fontscaling there.

Is there a possibility to switch off the scaling of the font size in sigil?
What else can I do?

Enclosed you can find screenshots showing my problem.

Thanks a lot in advance,
Regards, Franz Peter.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:16 AM   #3
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Enclosed you can find screenshots showing my problem.
Screenshots are nice for illustrating the problem, but they don't help with debugging it. You need to attach the epub files that are causing this so I can take a look at them.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:27 AM   #4
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Thank you for your response
Hello,

thank you for your answers - enclosed you can find three files:

.) The original .rtf file
.) The .epub file created with calibre
.) The .epub file created with Sigil
(saving the .epub calibre created file without any changes)

The same problem is with all files I tried. I wrote the text (part
of a science fiction ebook) by myself with Word 2003. So I don't
understand why (and how!) invisible characters could be included here.

Thanks,
Regards, Franz Peter.
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File Type: epub Testfile_calibre.epub (121.9 KB, 377 views)
File Type: epub Testfile_Sigil.epub (121.9 KB, 378 views)
File Type: rtf Testfile - Fran Peterz.rtf (123.8 KB, 532 views)
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:25 AM   #5
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Well, that's interestingly weird.
In the RTF the line

Nur ein Traum.

is not one bit of text, but two - the N separate from the rest of the line, even though the formatting its identical.
Calibre translates this into two spans of the same class

<p class="calibre2"><span class="none2">N</span><span class="none2">ur ein Traum.</span></p>

And I suspect HTML Tidy in Sigil is then adding a space between the two spans, giving

<p class="calibre2"><span class="none2">N</span> <span class="none2">ur ein Traum.</span></p>

Unfortunately, adding a space between spans is significant - it actiually adds a space into the text.
So it does seem to be a Sigil bug.

Would you like to log the bug on the tracking system, or shall I make up a small test document and log it?

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Hello,

thank you for your answers - enclosed you can find three files:

.) The original .rtf file
.) The .epub file created with calibre
.) The .epub file created with Sigil
(saving the .epub calibre created file without any changes)

The same problem is with all files I tried. I wrote the text (part
of a science fiction ebook) by myself with Word 2003. So I don't
understand why (and how!) invisible characters could be included here.

Thanks,
Regards, Franz Peter.
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Hi Valloric,

is it possible, that this is the same problem I mentioned here?
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Yes, it's the same problem - HTML Tidy adding spaces between span elements.

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Hi Valloric,

is it possible, that this is the same problem I mentioned here?
Yes, it seems I spoke to soon when I said that was a specialized problem. But Tidy bugs... man I'm telling you those will be the death of me.

Tidy is a nightmare to debug.
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Thanks to all!!!
Hello again

and thanks to all for the very fast analysis!

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Would you like to log the bug on the tracking system, or shall I make up a small test document and log it?
@pdurrant: If you can do this for me this would be really great!!!!


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It seems that this issue has already been reported, with a sample file.

http://code.google.com/p/sigil/issues/detail?id=139

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I see.

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