10-24-2011, 03:39 PM | #46 | |
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Curious as to why that should be obvious? Wasn't The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo published after his death? So there is no way he ever new it would be the success it was. I'm not saying you are wrong, that it was in no way product placement for which he was paid, but I don't see the "should be obvious" part. I don't see why suspicion should not be raised by the description of that computer that sounds like an ad? |
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10-24-2011, 03:42 PM | #47 | |
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I really doubt Apple went out of their way to pay some (then) unknown Swedish author to mention their device in his book. Do we really think their marketing department thought another 11 customers would boost their business significantly? We know for a fact that product placement happens in movies and TV shows, but I have not really heard of such in books. It would be news to me. |
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10-24-2011, 03:45 PM | #48 | |
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As for the IKEA references, they have a particular look... the description helped place what it looked like, and I can't think of a better way to describe an apartment if it's furnished with IKEA stuff... again, didn't feel like product placement to me. I envisioned that as a whole bunch of lightweight minimalist Ikea furniture and a heavyweight chair that didn't really fit. And Mercedes... well... what should he have said "got into his luxury car"? Doesn't flow the same... Maybe I'm gullible, but none of those felt like product placement to me. Last edited by twowheels; 10-24-2011 at 03:48 PM. |
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10-24-2011, 03:45 PM | #49 |
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As for the OP, I would love to have ads in my ebooks. Not only do I not mind them, I insist on them.
If we don't have ads in ebooks within 2-3 years, that's it for me. I'm immediately turning to the darknet for my books. |
10-24-2011, 05:11 PM | #50 | |
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Sometimes authors like to include things in their stories that actually exist. |
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10-24-2011, 07:50 PM | #51 | |
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Advertisers don't want to pay for a portion of the ebooks I read, because I'm not going to give any consideration to the ads. I won't be clicking on the ad links because I won't be reading on a device with clickthough ability. And while most newer ereaders have wifi, there are still plenty that don't--and plenty more that keep it turned off except when they're getting new books, both to save battery and because they don't have constant access to wifi. |
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10-24-2011, 08:15 PM | #52 | |
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i read to get away from the constant noise and clutter bouncing around my head from those other entertainment mediums. i think at the point when ads are inserted into the books themselves piracy will become a revolutionary act. if the book is free either way there is NOTHING stopping me from pirating a copy in order to experience a "pure" version of the book. the authors arent going to see a cent from the advertising revenue either way. to shift gears a tad gamers were sold a bill of goods when they were told that dynamic ads and product placement in games was gonna lower prices. they're still $60....they haven't dropped in price one red cent. |
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10-24-2011, 08:20 PM | #53 | |
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no way in hell would i pay for a product catalog like that. |
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10-24-2011, 08:21 PM | #54 |
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In the '60s, it wasn't uncommon for paperbacks to have a center insert with advertising for cigarettes or a book club.
Personally if it meant cheaper prices, I would like ads. I would no doubt remove them, but in the process of removing them I'd no doubt at least see them once so I wouldn't feel like I was doing something unethical... |
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Also, the technology he mentions is generally obsolete: I don't think you've been able to buy a Palm Tungsten T3 for more than five years. Finally, given his political proclivities, I'm not sure that he would be in favor of product placement anyway. |
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10-25-2011, 06:36 AM | #56 | |
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10-25-2011, 10:15 AM | #57 | |
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Indie writers are different. Many of them are looking for income any way they can. I can see indie writers offering two versions of their books - an ad-free 2.99 version for those who hate ads and an ad-supported version for 0.99 or free. There may be even a fremium model where you get the ad-supported model for free with an option to "upgrade" to the ad-free version if you like the book. It works for games and apps, why not books? The beauty of the "links" approach is that the issue of "intrusiveness" largely disappears, so long as the authors and publishers are sensible about it. Since authors would have ultimate control, it would be win-win for authors, IMO. |
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10-25-2011, 11:42 AM | #59 |
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When I read the Swedish version (Män som hatar kvinnor) the description of Salander's Air MacBook was already outdated, can't imagine what it must read like in translation a year later.
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