Does Kindle Voyage still have these problems?

Julius Caesar · 03-12-2015, 10:20 PM

1. Uneven light at the bottom of the screen
2. Occasional reboot for no reason
3. Light can't be turn off completely
4. Screen blinks when you set the device to always refresh at every page
5. Can't DISABLE airplane mode without having to go to setting menu first. Having a toolbar at the top of the screen would be nice.

susan_cassidy · 03-12-2015, 11:27 PM

3 is true for the Paperwhite, also, and always has been.
4 is true for all eink devices and always has been
5 most people would want the screen real estate used for the book, I think

Barbara1955 · 03-13-2015, 12:14 AM

Can u go into setting & change #4 to refresh less often? My Touch I had refresh every 5 pages but then I got so cought up in watch for the page turns & refresh That became annoying

HarryT · 03-13-2015, 03:37 AM

It certainly should never spontaneously reboot. Mine never has.

There is a slight bottom-to-top fall-off in light intensity, but that's simply because the light is at the bottom edge of the screen. There's no unevenness in it. It doesn't have the shadow cones that the PW1 had.

bonacker · 03-13-2015, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susan_cassidy

5 most people would want the screen real estate used for the book, I think

I agree a toolbar would take up too much space, but I find it annoying that enabling/disabling WiFi requires 4 taps. For something used so often, airplane mode should be a toggling option or at least an option on the drop-down menu of the main page.

I counted eight options I never (or almost never) use on the main page drop-down menu. I only use the browser and settings options regularly.

HarryT · 03-13-2015, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonacker

I agree a toolbar would take up too much space, but I find it annoying that enabling/disabling WiFi requires 4 taps. For something used so often, airplane mode should be a toggling option or at least an option on the drop-down menu of the main page.

I guess, though, that different people use different things often. I never turn WiFi on on my Voyage - it's permanently off - hence, for me personally, having it on a top-level menu would be of no benefit. I have a friend who never turns WiFi off on his, so again for him, no benefit.

badgoodDeb · 03-13-2015, 12:23 PM

I finally decided to never turn off the WiFi, mostly because it was too much work to turn it off, for the small benefit. I just plug it in slightly more often. My cloud collections always sync, and my downloaded books arrive whenever I open the magnetic cover, just because I always leave the WiFi on. BUT it would be nice to have an easier switch (it's too hard to describe to one's mother, across country!).

BeeTee-Ess · 03-14-2015, 12:42 AM

I never turn WiFi off, and it is no problem, to plug my PW2 in to a mains charger every week or two, when I finish reading for the night.

jeffyen · 03-14-2015, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonacker

I agree a toolbar would take up too much space, but I find it annoying that enabling/disabling WiFi requires 4 taps. For something used so often, airplane mode should be a toggling option or at least an option on the drop-down menu of the main page.

I counted eight options I never (or almost never) use on the main page drop-down menu. I only use the browser and settings options regularly.

From business/design point of view, this could be intentional. The wifi being 'on' makes it more likely the reader would buy a new book.

3, 4, 5 are not bugs. I'm also curious about whether the ' uneven colourisation' of the screen is being solved, similar to how Paperwhite 2 solved 1's problem.

badgoodDeb · 03-14-2015, 02:38 PM

I don't see any uneven colorization on mine. Granted, the lights are at the bottom, so there is probably a slight change in the lighting, but I don't see it.

AkiraReader · 03-14-2015, 03:59 PM

You forgot the weird yellowing effect on some people's (like me).

http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?c...x26ICUHFMKMLD5

HarryT · 03-14-2015, 04:05 PM

I don't think anyone's forgetting it, but the majority of users simply don't see it. I don't see it visually on mine, although if I photograph the screen and analyse the pixel colours I can demonstrate that it is present.

tomsem · 03-14-2015, 05:01 PM

I leave wireless on all the time because battery lasts plenty long even with it on, and as I switch devices frequently, I need things to sync whenever possible (and I do wikipedia, translate, store etc.). There are plenty of opportunities to charge it so to me it is a waste of effort to turn it off.

Robmonster · 03-17-2015, 05:46 AM

I don't understand how anyone could say that turning Airplane mode on or off is too much work.

Atunah · 03-17-2015, 02:11 PM

Well it is much easier and faster on the older kindles like the K3 where its just a hit on the menu button and then another click with the 5 way to turn wifi on or off.
It has bugged me all the time I have had the Paperwhite, mostly because its battery is so bad that I always had to keep wifi off or I barely made it through a day or a day and a half.

Now with the Voyage, I don't worry anymore. I can finally keep my wifi on and not worry about making it through a day. I get maybe 3 days out of it now. I do read a lot so I look at that as normal for my usage. I can read a book a day so that is why.
Since I like to look up stuff including dictionary and like to just keep my device synced all the time, I am really happy that I can leave wifi on now.

So I guess that takes care of #5 of the OP.

1. the light is even on my Voyage. I have had a really bad paperwhite 1 that had such uneven and splotchy lighting I didn't even use it anymore much. Read on my Fire6 at night. Now I am so happy with my Voyage I don't want to read on anything else. Its even, no dark splotches at the bottom, no diamond shaped light beams, no splotches. Just even.

2. I think my PW might have had a couple of reboots on its own after that big update, none of my other devices ever did. Not my Voyage so far either.

3. Light is not completely off I guess, no clue, I can't see it on the Voyage. I can't even see the lights on the bottom like I could on the Paperwhite. And with the auto light on I don't even think about the light anymore ever. I keep my light on lower then may though, I think inside highest is 10, mostly it hangs at 9. I'll only know when I check as its all automatic. outside it goes up to 14 as I trained it to do that. At night in bed it goes down to 8. And the screen never looks "lit" for lack of better word. It just looks like paper. I never see or notice any glow. I did notice that on my paperwhite.

4. e-ink screens have blinked since I had my first kindle in 2008 the K1. Back then there wasn't even an option to change to every 6 pages. I think the K3 still does every page also. I am on 6 pages with the Voyage as its so sharp that it doesn't deteriorate much at all by the time the "flash" comes up. I just don't notice that anymore after 7 years of reading on e-ink.

03-12-2015, 10:20 PM	#1
Julius Caesar Addict Posts: 341 Karma: 1244808 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Does Kindle Voyage still have these problems? 1. Uneven light at the bottom of the screen 2. Occasional reboot for no reason 3. Light can't be turn off completely 4. Screen blinks when you set the device to always refresh at every page 5. Can't DISABLE airplane mode without having to go to setting menu first. Having a toolbar at the top of the screen would be nice.

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03-12-2015, 11:27 PM	#2
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	3 is true for the Paperwhite, also, and always has been. 4 is true for all eink devices and always has been 5 most people would want the screen real estate used for the book, I think

03-13-2015, 12:14 AM	#3
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,454 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Can u go into setting & change #4 to refresh less often? My Touch I had refresh every 5 pages but then I got so cought up in watch for the page turns & refresh That became annoying

03-13-2015, 03:37 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It certainly should never spontaneously reboot. Mine never has. There is a slight bottom-to-top fall-off in light intensity, but that's simply because the light is at the bottom edge of the screen. There's no unevenness in it. It doesn't have the shadow cones that the PW1 had. Last edited by HarryT; 03-13-2015 at 04:55 AM.

03-13-2015, 12:23 PM	#7
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,501 Karma: 64095689 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	I finally decided to never turn off the WiFi, mostly because it was too much work to turn it off, for the small benefit. I just plug it in slightly more often. My cloud collections always sync, and my downloaded books arrive whenever I open the magnetic cover, just because I always leave the WiFi on. BUT it would be nice to have an easier switch (it's too hard to describe to one's mother, across country!).

03-14-2015, 12:42 AM	#8
BeeTee-Ess Addict Posts: 306 Karma: 679580 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Device: K3, K4NT, KPW2, Voyage, iP4, iP6, iPad Mini, HP TouchPad, Kobo Mini	I never turn WiFi off, and it is no problem, to plug my PW2 in to a mains charger every week or two, when I finish reading for the night.

03-14-2015, 02:38 PM	#10
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,501 Karma: 64095689 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	I don't see any uneven colorization on mine. Granted, the lights are at the bottom, so there is probably a slight change in the lighting, but I don't see it.

03-14-2015, 03:59 PM	#11
AkiraReader Connoisseur Posts: 83 Karma: 1873672 Join Date: Feb 2015 Device: Boox, Kindles	You forgot the weird yellowing effect on some people's (like me). http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?c...x26ICUHFMKMLD5

03-14-2015, 04:05 PM	#12
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I don't think anyone's forgetting it, but the majority of users simply don't see it. I don't see it visually on mine, although if I photograph the screen and analyse the pixel colours I can demonstrate that it is present.

03-14-2015, 05:01 PM	#13
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,478 Karma: 26425959 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	I leave wireless on all the time because battery lasts plenty long even with it on, and as I switch devices frequently, I need things to sync whenever possible (and I do wikipedia, translate, store etc.). There are plenty of opportunities to charge it so to me it is a waste of effort to turn it off.

03-17-2015, 05:46 AM	#14
Robmonster Wizard! Posts: 250 Karma: 548228 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Device: Paperwhite, Voyage + Oasis2	I don't understand how anyone could say that turning Airplane mode on or off is too much work.

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03-17-2015, 02:11 PM	#15
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	Well it is much easier and faster on the older kindles like the K3 where its just a hit on the menu button and then another click with the 5 way to turn wifi on or off. It has bugged me all the time I have had the Paperwhite, mostly because its battery is so bad that I always had to keep wifi off or I barely made it through a day or a day and a half. Now with the Voyage, I don't worry anymore. I can finally keep my wifi on and not worry about making it through a day. I get maybe 3 days out of it now. I do read a lot so I look at that as normal for my usage. I can read a book a day so that is why. Since I like to look up stuff including dictionary and like to just keep my device synced all the time, I am really happy that I can leave wifi on now. So I guess that takes care of #5 of the OP. 1. the light is even on my Voyage. I have had a really bad paperwhite 1 that had such uneven and splotchy lighting I didn't even use it anymore much. Read on my Fire6 at night. Now I am so happy with my Voyage I don't want to read on anything else. Its even, no dark splotches at the bottom, no diamond shaped light beams, no splotches. Just even. 2. I think my PW might have had a couple of reboots on its own after that big update, none of my other devices ever did. Not my Voyage so far either. 3. Light is not completely off I guess, no clue, I can't see it on the Voyage. I can't even see the lights on the bottom like I could on the Paperwhite. And with the auto light on I don't even think about the light anymore ever. I keep my light on lower then may though, I think inside highest is 10, mostly it hangs at 9. I'll only know when I check as its all automatic. outside it goes up to 14 as I trained it to do that. At night in bed it goes down to 8. And the screen never looks "lit" for lack of better word. It just looks like paper. I never see or notice any glow. I did notice that on my paperwhite. 4. e-ink screens have blinked since I had my first kindle in 2008 the K1. Back then there wasn't even an option to change to every 6 pages. I think the K3 still does every page also. I am on 6 pages with the Voyage as its so sharp that it doesn't deteriorate much at all by the time the "flash" comes up. I just don't notice that anymore after 7 years of reading on e-ink.