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Old 10-08-2009, 08:26 PM   #241
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There is currently no way for a small non-US publisher to get books into the Amazon Kindle ebook store.
I wonder if their stoppage of accepting new pubs maybe a prelude to the whole Intl Kindle thing and they'll start accepting them through Amazon. Don't know, just a thought.
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It seems that the Kindle offers INSTANT dictionary look up for words in the document that you are reading. From what I gather, no other e-book reader offers this function?
That is not correct. The Sony 600 has a dictionary as does the Jetbook, the CyBook Gen3 and I think the CyBook Opus. I'm pretty sure the iLliad and DR1000 do also, but I'm sure someone here can confirm or deny that.

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Old 10-08-2009, 09:53 PM   #243
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That is not correct. The Sony 600 has a dictionary as does the Jetbook, the CyBook Gen3 and I think the CyBook Opus. I'm pretty sure the iLliad and DR1000 do also, but I'm sure someone here can confirm or deny that.
Ok, thanks Bob. I suppose I didn't properly word my question. The Kindle provides instant definitions, whereas my understanding was the others with dictionaries offer a slightly more convoluted "look up" process?

Do you know if the Sony 600, Jetbook, Cybook Gen 3 or Cybook Opus allow one to change the default dictionary, like can be done on the Kindle? Because that is the killer factor in being able to use the Kindle as a language learning reading tool.
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That is not correct. The Sony 600 has a dictionary as does the Jetbook, the CyBook Gen3 and I think the CyBook Opus. I'm pretty sure the iLliad and DR1000 do also, but I'm sure someone here can confirm or deny that.

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The Opus has no dictionary, at least not with the ePub firmware. If they ever release the Mobi firmware it might, I'm not sure.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:12 PM   #245
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Ok, thanks Bob. I suppose I didn't properly word my question. The Kindle provides instant definitions, whereas my understanding was the others with dictionaries offer a slightly more convoluted "look up" process?
Yes, the 600 it is "instant" lookup. You just arrow the cursor to the word and as you move it the definition is displayed. Yes, you can change the dictionary. It comes with two, not sure if and when others will be available. From the 600 manual:

Sets the dictionary used. The type of dictionary is automatically set according to the keyboard that you set in the initial setting. Available dictionaries: “New Oxford American Dictionary,” “Oxford Dictionary of English,” “None”
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Do you know if the Sony 600, Jetbook, Cybook Gen 3 or Cybook Opus allow one to change the default dictionary, like can be done on the Kindle? Because that is the killer factor in being able to use the Kindle as a language learning reading tool.

The CyBook Gen3 (with the mobipocket firmware) actually allows you to have multiple dictionaries installed and it looks up the word in all of them.

Yes, I know that the Jetbook allows you to change dictionaries. The device comes with a few. I think two definition dictionaries and two translation dictionaries. Once again, I don't know if more are available.

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Well, that is news to me. Thanks so much Bob. On those features alone it means the CyBook is much more suitable for my needs than the Kindle...which by comparison is very restrictive in terms of how it caters to both the non-US market, and the non-english speaking market.

Many thanks.
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Well, that is news to me. Thanks so much Bob. On those features alone it means the CyBook is much more suitable for my needs than the Kindle...which by comparison is very restrictive in terms of how it caters to both the non-US market, and the non-english speaking market.

Many thanks.
Sure. Just keep in mind. The CyBook Gen3 is an older device and it supports mobipocket which it being quickly supplanted by Adobe ePUB drm. There is "supposed" to be a firmware update for the CyBook Gen3 to support that, but I don't know if that firmware supports dictionaries.

Good luck with your choice. I'm happy to help.

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I see, I suppose that is a concern. Ultimately I guess this is a game of compromise, what can I most live without, kind of thing. Given what you've just said I would probably prefer the Sony, but for some reason the touch screen just doesn't appeal to me.

Perhaps I'll hold out and see if the Kindle offers a more multi-language friendly 3rd edition.
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I see, I suppose that is a concern. Ultimately I guess this is a game of compromise, what can I most live without, kind of thing. Given what you've just said I would probably prefer the Sony, but for some reason the touch screen just doesn't appeal to me.

Perhaps I'll hold out and see if the Kindle offers a more multi-language friendly 3rd edition.
The Sony 505 is a great device and supports the Adobe ePub DRM. If you look around you can find some good clearance deals on it. Although no dictionary support. (as of yet)

You of course don't "have" to touch the screen.

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You of course don't "have" to touch the screen.
Ha, very true!

Upon further investigation it seems that none of the Sony Readers will work for me anyway. The only dictionary options they allow are American english, English english, or none. Thus you can't even add a new default dictionary such as that of another language.

It's a real shame that these companies are so anglophonic-centric.
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Hi! I'm new here and have a question regarding the comparison of the Kindle with other e-book readers.

It seems that the Kindle offers INSTANT dictionary look up for words in the document that you are reading. From what I gather, no other e-book reader offers this function?
Not really Kindle, but Mobipocket format. I've got it with my Cybook (and I think I change my dictionary much easier at Cybook than at Kindle, according to I've read I would have to do at Kindle and I've done at my Cybook). I think Opus with PRC firmware (if it appears at any moment) will do it too.
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Sure. Just keep in mind. The CyBook Gen3 is an older device and it supports mobipocket which it being quickly supplanted by Adobe ePUB drm. There is "supposed" to be a firmware update for the CyBook Gen3 to support that, but I don't know if that firmware supports dictionaries.

Good luck with your choice. I'm happy to help.

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And don't forget that, at this moment, if you have ePub you don't have dictionary.
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So the OPUS doesn't have E-Ink technology, and the Gen3 doesn't support Epub.

Great...

Thanks for letting me know Terisa!
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So the OPUS doesn't have E-Ink technology, and the Gen3 doesn't support Epub.

Great...

Thanks for letting me know Terisa!
No, that is incorrect. The Opus is most certainly an eInk device.

One thing worth noting: although the Kindle IN THEORY allows you to change the dictionary, there are NO replacement dictionaries currently available for it. That, at least, was the position a couple of months ago; I don't know if it's changed since.
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***I wonder if their stoppage of accepting new pubs maybe a prelude to the whole Intl Kindle thing and they'll start accepting them through Amazon. Don't know, just a thought.***

And an ecnouraging thought it is, Brian. Amazon currently says it has 'no plans' to change its US-registered publishers only policy. Mind you, had you asked them a week or two ago, they would have told you they also had 'no plans' to launch an international Kindle. Cheers. Neil
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