Give up on the V2?

THJahar · 07-04-2006, 05:14 AM

Due to the fact that most of us are now able to get an invite to order an Illiad how many of you are going to give up on the V2?
I know i've sent 2 emails now requesting an update on partners etc. for the UK and have had no response from Jinke.
Vote now!

CommanderROR · 07-04-2006, 07:21 AM

it's strange that they don't answer...very unusual...but I've decided for the Iliad now anyway.
My second alternative would have been the "modified" V8, it's the best solution if you really want to us it as a book and nothing else, no DRM formats, no scientific paper that need a bigger screen...

s0me0ne · 07-04-2006, 11:54 AM

I'm going to wait to see what Sony's price is (although I dont trust them) :/ and I hope to see the V2 available for sale by Sept 1, if not I'm getting a Nokia 770, I'm sick of putting this stuff off, I have a lot of books and stuff to learn and having to sit in front of the comp to do so isnt always confortable or productive

Vash · 07-04-2006, 10:18 PM

As soon as LVD is ready to start selling for the US I'm grabbing a improved V8. I'm tired of waiting and it meets my needs for a eink device. Currently all the companies creating these devices are on the put off track, even IRex says that their device is not finished but shipping anyway.

simond · 07-05-2006, 04:30 AM

I emailed them yesterday and got a reply:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinke

We’re still discussing the business cooperation with the local companies and partners. But the process is slower than we expected, because it relates to many issues, such as format, language, interface, content supply and after-sale service etc.
This week we’ll begin to sell the sample of V2 for evaluation to our agents and collaborators. For the sample quantities are limited, we can’t offer the product to personal user.
We hope you can understand that.

So it looks like there is still progress but not as quick as they (and us) would like

THJahar · 07-05-2006, 06:27 AM

Yup I received an email back stating the same thing. I just wish they would give us the name of the partners so we could negotiate pre-orders of the samples with the same 'I understand that this is a beta product' clause that Irex is allowing us to do.

CommanderROR · 07-05-2006, 07:32 AM

yeah, but iRex took a long time to come up with that option...give Jinke some more time...maybe it'll work out.

TaKir · 07-05-2006, 09:45 PM

Try your access to http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/English/ - I had big troubles today... Didn't manage to open Jinke's site at 6.00 am (Moscow time)=about 11 am in China.
Interesting to see, what kind of changes we will se today at their site...

Well, hardly managed to open http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/E...vice/index.asp
What we can see - supported files for V2 - PDF, DOC, WOLF, HTML, TXT, CHM, RAR, ZIP ETC.
Were these file types (CHM, RAR, ZIP ETC) in a list earlier or not???
http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/E...nter/index.asp - also has some changes... May be some software changes too?

At least, they are alive and do something

s0me0ne · 07-05-2006, 11:51 PM

nice find TaKir, those formats are new

The comparison page here proves it:
https://www.mobileread.com/eink/

However I went to the V2 page at:
http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/E...tail.asp?id=20

and it has this list of supported files
PDF Viewer, WOLF Viewer(WOLF File Format:convert from txt,htm,DOC ,PDF,Excel,PPT,Images,mp3 ets),HTML Viewer,TXT Viewer

perhaps they havent updated the product page yet

Alexander Turcic · 07-06-2006, 05:17 AM

Cool. I added the formats to the current matrix:

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

TaKir · 07-06-2006, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Cool. I added the formats to the current matrix:

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

1) And why are links to Irex and Sony red, and to Jinke - blue?

2) txt, rtf needs conversion for Sony reader - they are in list of Sony's supported files.
And nothig is at V8 list (through conversion - doc, rtf, pdf, ppt, xls etc...)

3) Why no html in Sony's file-format list???

Alexander Turcic · 07-06-2006, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaKir

1) And why are links to Irex and Sony red, and to Jinke - blue?

2) txt, rtf needs conversion for Sony reader - they are in list of Sony's supported files.
And nothig is at V8 list (through conversion - doc, rtf, pdf, ppt, xls etc...)

3) Why no html in Sony's file-format list???

1) Blue links = lead to Wiki pages that already exist; Red links = links to non-existing entries, waiting to be added by our readers

2) The list didn't differentiate between native support and support through conversion. Feel free to add the distinction to it. For the V8 (and V2), we specifically mentioned the WOLF format, which, if I understood correctly, is the supported target format of the HanLin. I understood that you could basically convert any content to WOLF with the printer driver; a similar tool exist for the Sony Librie.

TaKir · 07-06-2006, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

I understood that you could basically convert any content to WOLF with the printer driver; a similar tool exist for the Sony Librie.

For *.doc there is no need to use Hanlin virtual printer - just right click any *.doc and choose make wolf. No need to print it... But of course, you can also use virtual printer for this - but it takes more time...

View Poll Results: Are you going to give up on the V2?
I'm going to give up and order an Illiad	5	27.78%
I'm going to wait and buy a V2	1	5.56%
I'm going to wait and compare the 2 then choose	6	33.33%
I'm going to get an imported V8	6	33.33%
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07-04-2006, 05:14 AM	#1
THJahar Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 58 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester, UK Device: Jinke V2 Prototype	Give up on the V2? Due to the fact that most of us are now able to get an invite to order an Illiad how many of you are going to give up on the V2? I know i've sent 2 emails now requesting an update on partners etc. for the UK and have had no response from Jinke. Vote now!

07-05-2006, 09:45 PM	#8
TaKir Keine Ursache! )) Posts: 146 Karma: 63 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Almost everywhere Device: Lbook V8 & V3_Vizplex	Try your access to http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/English/ - I had big troubles today... Didn't manage to open Jinke's site at 6.00 am (Moscow time)=about 11 am in China. Interesting to see, what kind of changes we will se today at their site... Well, hardly managed to open http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/E...vice/index.asp What we can see - supported files for V2 - PDF, DOC, WOLF, HTML, TXT, CHM, RAR, ZIP ETC. Were these file types (CHM, RAR, ZIP ETC) in a list earlier or not??? http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/E...nter/index.asp - also has some changes... May be some software changes too? At least, they are alive and do something Last edited by TaKir; 07-05-2006 at 10:05 PM.

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07-04-2006, 07:21 AM	#2
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	it's strange that they don't answer...very unusual...but I've decided for the Iliad now anyway. My second alternative would have been the "modified" V8, it's the best solution if you really want to us it as a book and nothing else, no DRM formats, no scientific paper that need a bigger screen...

07-04-2006, 11:54 AM	#3
s0me0ne Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2006	I'm going to wait to see what Sony's price is (although I dont trust them) :/ and I hope to see the V2 available for sale by Sept 1, if not I'm getting a Nokia 770, I'm sick of putting this stuff off, I have a lot of books and stuff to learn and having to sit in front of the comp to do so isnt always confortable or productive

07-04-2006, 10:18 PM	#4
Vash Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: Dell axim x30	As soon as LVD is ready to start selling for the US I'm grabbing a improved V8. I'm tired of waiting and it meets my needs for a eink device. Currently all the companies creating these devices are on the put off track, even IRex says that their device is not finished but shipping anyway.

07-05-2006, 06:27 AM	#6
THJahar Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 58 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester, UK Device: Jinke V2 Prototype	Yup I received an email back stating the same thing. I just wish they would give us the name of the partners so we could negotiate pre-orders of the samples with the same 'I understand that this is a beta product' clause that Irex is allowing us to do.

07-05-2006, 07:32 AM	#7
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	yeah, but iRex took a long time to come up with that option...give Jinke some more time...maybe it'll work out.

07-05-2006, 11:51 PM	#9
s0me0ne Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2006	nice find TaKir, those formats are new The comparison page here proves it: https://www.mobileread.com/eink/ However I went to the V2 page at: http://www.jinke.com.cn/compagesql/E...tail.asp?id=20 and it has this list of supported files PDF Viewer, WOLF Viewer(WOLF File Format:convert from txt,htm,DOC ,PDF,Excel,PPT,Images,mp3 ets),HTML Viewer,TXT Viewer perhaps they havent updated the product page yet

07-06-2006, 05:17 AM	#10
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Cool. I added the formats to the current matrix: https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix

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