Doc Savage Novels?

[tompe]

I think it depend. I you cannot be shut down until it can be shown that you have been told I think it is a bad thing to do. Also if the legal situation is unclear or if it is legal by complaining you can just cause more work for people so that they remove things not because it is illegal but because the do not want to answer email about it.

[HarryT]

In this particular case, though, the files concerned clearly did infringe copyright, and so removing them from the site was absolutely the right thing to do.

Many web hosting services, when informed of a copyright infringement, will "shut down first, and ask questions later". This very nearly happened to the previous MobileRead server a while ago.

[Sparrow]

"Now that you have made a point of bringing it to my attention, I have removed the files."

A phrasing that seems to convey a certain lack of enthusiasm .

[Steven Lyle Jordan]

Originally Posted by tompe

Why. I tale the image to be able to look at it ("read") later.

The laws in Sweden was changed a couple of years ago so now it is illegal to download copyrighted material. But it is copyright infringent or something similar that is the crime. It is not theft. And it is not theft in the US or UK according to what people have written about the laws in these countries here.

So, we're back to the "copyright infringement is not theft" discussion, eh?

Fine. My point is, downloading digital material that is not authorized to be available is illegal. Swedish law (as cited by Alexander's link) clearly states that:

According to the new legislation copies and hence downloads derived from "copies/originals to which access has been made available illegally" will be prohibited.

It says nothing about who made the files available illegally... just that, if they are illegally available, you do not have the right to download them... not even for personal use. So, by your description of your example, you are clearly breaking the law. By my description of your example, you are clearly breaking the law. Call it what you will.

Originally Posted by tompe

You get a monopol to distribute intellectual property. It is the monopol that has value. Why confuse the monopol with the intellectual item?

No... the intellectual item has the value. The monopol secures the legal right to distribute and protect the intellectual item.

[Steven Lyle Jordan]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Many web hosting services, when informed of a copyright infringement, will "shut down first, and ask questions later". This very nearly happened to the previous MobileRead server a while ago.

That's unfortunately a rather ham-handed way of dealing with the problem, particular with ISPs shutting down sites without questioning the issue or informing the site owner of the problem first. Sure, in some areas, the infringement is plain and premeditated, and causes clear damage. But there are other cases that are not that obvious, and don't necessarily merit shutdown without warning.

Still, it is an ISP's right to inform subscribers that any sign of infringing material can result in instant shutdown, with no consequences on the ISP. (And it's up to site owners to accept that, or go to an ISP that they feel will be more even-handed.)