11-10-2012, 03:38 PM | #46 |
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Hi CL,
I found that the only way to stop the crashes is to either boot into safe mode OR go to Start -->Run -->enter msconfig and hit return --> check selective startup -->uncheck startup items --> Click okay and reboot. You will end up in the same place as safe mode. When you are done with the Calibre, reverse the process by Run --> msconfig and hit return -->select normal startup -->ok and reboot. I did extensive testing adding and removing startup items but nothing worked to hit the problem. If you get to the problem, please let me know. Bob |
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Usual culprits: Roll back managers Security suites (sometime a configuration will fix) File Shadowing (real time backup) Malware anti-Malware SW Additional (different versions) of Python (change the Path variable order to place it AFTER Calibre) Strip all the 3rd party 'helper' utilities from the startup, leaving a basic 'new' Windows config. and good luck, these kinds are hard to find. |
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11-10-2012, 05:02 PM | #48 |
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Hi TheDucks,
I am using the same Calibre program on both my home computer (Windows XP) and laptop (Windows7). Each has different versions of Symantec Endpoint Protection, the same Malwarebytes Anti-malware. They don't use a roll back manager and no file shadowing. I removed Calibre on one computer and added a fresh version of the portable Calibre. The program still crashes when trying to edit the Metadata. I don't know what to do so I just live with the problem. I am not that great at modifying the programs and really don't want to fool around with the drivers. If it works, don't touch it. Bob |
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Desktop is XP SP and Laptop is W7HP (just made it dual boot to Ubuntu Quantal. Haven't tried Calibre on that release) No yellow box protection on either system |
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Anyway, it didn't help. What version of Python does Calibre use? I do have an app (pyTivo) that won't run on 3.x so I am forced to use 2.x. Kovid: Couldn't something be done make sure C uses the correct version of Python (assuming that's the problem)? Thanks, CL |
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The only way to find these things is by disabling all the start up apps (including any that are started via things like Startup Delayer, WinPatrol etc). And then start the first one and test, if that's OK then start the second one and test ...
When you find the 'suspect' then reboot with everything disabled and start the 'suspect', if the problem occurs then you've probably found the 'culprit'. Sometimes, rarely in my experience, it can be a combination of more than one thing (ie Bobs AV & Bill's firewall). If the 'culprit' has an exit option on its right click menu, then reboot with everything enabled, exit the 'culprit' and test Calibre - if it runs OK then you've nailed it, Now you have to decide what to do about the 'culprit', maybe just exit it (or kill it with Task Manager) before starting Calibre and start it up when you've finished with Calibre, find an alternative product ... In my experience trying to guess what's causing these sort of problem can waste a lot of time, its much better to work methodically. I doubt that its drivers - unless you have any odd-ball devices or a 'strange' network set up - as in this thread, where the problem was 'fixed' with a MS patch ==>> https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=193686 BR Last edited by BetterRed; 11-10-2012 at 07:45 PM. |
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Hi BetterRead. I disabled all the startups and rebooted. Then using msconfig I mentioned above, I re-enabled groups of 5 in the startup, rebooted and tried calibre, modifying the metadata. If that did not crash I added the next 5. Guess what? After all were enabled and no crashes, I scratched my head. After returning the msconfig to normal bootup and rebooting, I tried calibre and the system crashed when playing around with the metadata.
My son said there are other things that start in regular mode and not in safe mode that don't appear in the msconfig "startup" tab. I then threw up my hands and said it was a waste of time and effort. I am not that versed in computer programing and such to be searching for the bug. PS: I did try the debug mode but nothing showed up because the program crashed. Bob Last edited by Ptaker; 11-10-2012 at 08:38 PM. |
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Yesterday I decided to try running Task Manager and ending any processes that I thought 'might' be interfering with my Calibre software. It worked and I was able to successfully edit metadata on several books with no crashes. I didn't reboot or anything -- and being somewhat challenged with this stuff, wasn't really sure what I was doing lol. Then I decided to come here to see if there were any others experiencing my problem and to search for perhaps a more permanent solution. Adding and converting books has always worked just fine -- it was only the editing part that caused me headaches, but I can live with working with Calibre in 'safe mode' or using Task Manager prior to starting up Calibre. |
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BTW have you just tried waiting out the Not Responding message? I see this all the time on my clunky, old system. It (the hardware) is just too busy at the moment, and the message clears and all is good . |
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@DianNC: Since you say that killing processes on your system cures the issue, it seems that some proccess is interfering with calibre. If you spend the time to do it systematically, i.e. one by one till you discover the culprit, you can then remove/uninstall that software from your computer and your problems will cease.
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I'm a happy camper with the solution I've got working so far. This laptop is gasping its last breath and I'm so looking forward to installing Calibre on a new machine in the near future. |
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