Amazon e-books outside of the US

AprilHare · 05-07-2009, 09:25 AM

Would you support an petition to convince Amazon to make its' Kindle DX and e-book products available to people outside of the United States?

Nate the great · 05-07-2009, 09:28 AM

No. I don't want Amazon to extend their monopolistic behavior.

Alexander Turcic · 05-07-2009, 09:36 AM

April, I hope it's ok for you if I move this thread to the Kindle forums as probably fits better there.

Cheers!

(btw, I voted "yes" of course

)

SaraD · 05-07-2009, 09:37 AM

Nope - would not wish them on anybody else. I did not care for them as just a bookseller or now that they have evolved into marketing everything. The few times I have made purchases I've never been happy with the service and barely with the products. I do hope Barnes & Noble hurries up.

deltop · 05-07-2009, 09:41 AM

Don't we already know that they want to market the Kindle outside of the US but are currently unable to do so until enough they have a large enough selection of books?

They can't sell kindle books in other countries until they've obtained the rights to do so. A petition isn't going to speed this up.

RobbieClarken · 05-07-2009, 09:47 AM

I don't see much point to a petition. I believe Amazon are well aware of the demand for ebooks outside the US. Unfortunately the owners of the copyrights to books vary from country to country and the laws in many areas restrict importing of copyrighted works. Amazon has decided it is too costly to negotiate permission to sell ebooks with the local publishing cartel of each country.

JSWolf · 05-07-2009, 09:59 AM

Do we really want Amazon to get overseas and push Mobipocket when ePub is winning the battle? Right now with ePub going the way it is, as long as the devices support ePub with DRM, then they have store interoperability. So you can purchase from different sources without a problem.

markbot · 05-07-2009, 10:00 AM

it probably has nothing to do with amazon....it has to do with the publishers and copyrights in various countries.

Alexander Turcic · 05-07-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Do we really want Amazon to get overseas and push Mobipocket when ePub is winning the battle?

Jon, why the worry? Let the consumer decide. Amazon must come to the European market - they are such a big and important player. Give them time, and they will see what the consumer wants most.

sirbruce · 05-07-2009, 10:31 AM

I support them making the device available outside the US, but they can't make all the ebooks available outside the US... each book has different publishers for different regions, and it's up to them to provide the right ebook for the local market.

AlexBell · 05-08-2009, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

April, I hope it's ok for you if I move this thread to the Kindle forums as probably fits better there.(btw, I voted "yes" of course

)

Don't you think this is a bit restrictive, Alex?

I'm not in the US so can't buy the Kindle reader or Kindle books - not even free ones. So why on earth would I go to the Kindle forums? But I still have an opinion as to whether I should be prohibited from buying Kindles and Kindle books.

Regards, Alex

PS: With a name like that you can't be all bad.

Ryuujin27 · 05-08-2009, 04:04 AM

Yes.

I am absolutely dying for them to bring such a service to Japan. Unfortunately, there just aren't that many PDF'd (?) versions of many books. I can find a decent number of novels at various Japanese online... man, I really don't know what to even call them in english, ebook stores?? (日本語：電子書店). But there is no digitalized version of the Harry Potter books in Japanese, for example.

So besides going off in a little rant there, yes, I do want Amazon to take this international. Japanese people love books almost as much as they love gadgets, so this definitely has potential and hopefully with start up along with a larger ebook market.

pdurrant · 05-08-2009, 04:23 AM

No, because it's not in Amazon's power to do that. If they could do it, I'm sure they would, given that they could sell to anyone with an iPod Touch or iPhone. But their contracts with publishers, and publishers' contracts with authors retrict them to US sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AprilHare

Would you support an petition to convince Amazon to make its' Kindle DX and e-book products available to people outside of the United States?

Ryuujin27 · 05-08-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

No, because it's not in Amazon's power to do that. If they could do it, I'm sure they would, given that they could sell to anyone with an iPod Touch or iPhone. But their contracts with publishers, and publishers' contracts with authors retrict them to US sales.

For now. However, what's stopping them from expanding their contracts? There's an amazon.co.uk, amazon.co.jp, etc. Could they not use this to hit those markets as well?

sirbruce · 05-08-2009, 10:15 AM

Yes, but each country would have to have their own supply and distribution chain for ebooks. And wireless is an essential part to the Amazon model, so they'd have to make new international hardware and secure partnerships with local providers in Japan and Europe at roughly the same price point that they have with Sprint.

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Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	No. I don't want Amazon to extend their monopolistic behavior.

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Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	April, I hope it's ok for you if I move this thread to the Kindle forums as probably fits better there. Cheers! (btw, I voted "yes" of course )

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SaraD Groupie Posts: 161 Karma: 2670 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mead, WA, USA Device: Sony 650, Basic Kindle 7th generation	Nope - would not wish them on anybody else. I did not care for them as just a bookseller or now that they have evolved into marketing everything. The few times I have made purchases I've never been happy with the service and barely with the products. I do hope Barnes & Noble hurries up.

05-07-2009, 09:41 AM	#5
deltop Zealot Posts: 136 Karma: 244 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Kobo Glo	Don't we already know that they want to market the Kindle outside of the US but are currently unable to do so until enough they have a large enough selection of books? They can't sell kindle books in other countries until they've obtained the rights to do so. A petition isn't going to speed this up.

05-07-2009, 09:47 AM	#6
RobbieClarken Addict Posts: 371 Karma: 1002274 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Device: Kindle	I don't see much point to a petition. I believe Amazon are well aware of the demand for ebooks outside the US. Unfortunately the owners of the copyrights to books vary from country to country and the laws in many areas restrict importing of copyrighted works. Amazon has decided it is too costly to negotiate permission to sell ebooks with the local publishing cartel of each country.

05-07-2009, 09:59 AM	#7
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,858 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Do we really want Amazon to get overseas and push Mobipocket when ePub is winning the battle? Right now with ePub going the way it is, as long as the devices support ePub with DRM, then they have store interoperability. So you can purchase from different sources without a problem.

05-07-2009, 10:00 AM	#8
markbot Guru Posts: 612 Karma: 7511929 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, NY Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite 2	it probably has nothing to do with amazon....it has to do with the publishers and copyrights in various countries.

05-07-2009, 10:31 AM	#10
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	I support them making the device available outside the US, but they can't make all the ebooks available outside the US... each book has different publishers for different regions, and it's up to them to provide the right ebook for the local market.

05-08-2009, 04:04 AM	#12
Ryuujin27 Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2009 Device: none	Yes. I am absolutely dying for them to bring such a service to Japan. Unfortunately, there just aren't that many PDF'd (?) versions of many books. I can find a decent number of novels at various Japanese online... man, I really don't know what to even call them in english, ebook stores?? (日本語：電子書店). But there is no digitalized version of the Harry Potter books in Japanese, for example. So besides going off in a little rant there, yes, I do want Amazon to take this international. Japanese people love books almost as much as they love gadgets, so this definitely has potential and hopefully with start up along with a larger ebook market.

05-08-2009, 10:15 AM	#15
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	Yes, but each country would have to have their own supply and distribution chain for ebooks. And wireless is an essential part to the Amazon model, so they'd have to make new international hardware and secure partnerships with local providers in Japan and Europe at roughly the same price point that they have with Sprint.

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