04-12-2013, 08:11 PM | #91 |
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If you're going to get insulting, then piss off. Frankly, I'm better at IT stuff than you are. Insult me again and I'll complain to the mods. Probably best if you just set me to ignore so you won't be tempted.
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04-12-2013, 08:11 PM | #92 | |
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This wouldn't go over well in a law firm, where employees might be insulted to have such a locked-down retro PC. But in a production environment, I think Win8 would be more productive. Admittedly, I'm getting mighty far away from mobile reading here |
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04-12-2013, 08:14 PM | #93 | |
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04-12-2013, 08:29 PM | #94 |
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04-12-2013, 09:17 PM | #95 |
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How fast does it need to boot up, really? The approximately 30s it takes Windows 7 to cold boot on a standard HD (not an SSD) should be good enough for anyone. Of course, maybe I have different standards for "fast" than kids today, having grown up in an era when it could take 5 minutes to boot a desktop...
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04-12-2013, 09:40 PM | #96 |
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I'm guessing that it matters a lot to laptop users, and less so for desktop users. You can turn a desktop on and never turn it off since the power management features will take care of everything. People tend to turn off a laptop when it is being moved and will be unused for an extended period, and may be subject to the startup process several times a day.
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04-12-2013, 10:17 PM | #97 | |
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Metro may be fine on a tablet but I don't want a touch oriented system on a Desktop computer or even a laptop... I've always found touch on Desk and laptop to be awkward and physically tiring especially compared to mice, trackballs and trackpads whereas it is ideal on tablets... |
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04-13-2013, 12:14 AM | #98 | |
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And Windows 8 performance is better than Windows 7 not just at boot time, but most of the time, as documented here: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/win8-spe...ew-1760-5.html I don't have figures on this, but I believe Windows 8 is less prone to freezing up, and recovers more quickly, than Windows 7. Also, I think most people find a Windows 7 boot to be a lot longer than 30 seconds. Of course it depends a lot on what hardware you have. Then there's the tricky matter of deciding when the boot is really over. I think that when you first see the full desktop, it's closer to really being done on Win8 than Win7. Having said all this, I'm quite open to the possibility that Linux is faster than any Windows OS. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 04-13-2013 at 12:20 AM. |
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04-13-2013, 01:11 AM | #99 | |
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I had to go to a Walmart in the next town to find a last copy XP Home still brand new in an unopened box for $99. I picked it up as insurance. I remembered I had seen them on sale there a year or so before for about $59. Yes I am using it in one of my machines. I had thought of getting a new Win7 for the future, but decided not to since Google, Chromebook, and Linux are becoming so strong. |
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04-13-2013, 01:53 AM | #100 | |
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My own PC got Win7. I hate that Modern UI. And I'll completely ignore Win8 until they admit their mistake and return that start button. And give me the option to set the desktop as default, instead of the Modern UI. And it boots faster? My life isn't so cramped in time that I can't miss 30 seconds each day.... Oh, and I don't think we're counted as having bought a new pc, as we only bought components and not an assembled system.... |
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04-13-2013, 05:16 AM | #101 | |
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They have sandwiched two unconnected UIs into the same OS. |
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04-13-2013, 06:25 AM | #102 |
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PC isn't going away. It's replacement cycle is just getting longer. 5 years isn't one I have isn't too bad even now, though it was custom hi-end quad core q9300 with Radeon 4870. And for regular user who doesn't know of better even older machines are passable. So there is no need to replace one every other or three years.
Also I haven't thought this untill I read one reply on this thread. PCs are private machines, most of them sit at home where only occasional guest can see them. On other hand smartphones and tablets are public, people use them in public and as such want to show of. They are part of appearance and fashion statement too. Also they are hot. They will also level of in year or two if nothing major comes out. On other hand their physical life is limited in some ways that PCs aren't. |
04-13-2013, 08:27 AM | #103 | |
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AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE??? I have seen quite a few posters complaining about no start button on windows 8 when you can get one for 5 dollars USD or some free alternatives:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...on-267616.html So you can buy a 500 dollar notebook but will not pay 5 dollars USD for a start button or download a free program that will give you a windows 7 start up? Windows 8 is better than 7 in my book and only need a bit of tweaking to get a start button on it. Quote:
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04-13-2013, 08:36 AM | #104 | |
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04-13-2013, 09:22 AM | #105 | |
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