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Old 07-29-2010, 02:37 PM   #91
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Thanks so much. I was going by the post I responded to, which said, "They should've at least included an alt key for the top row of the keyboard or something." Now that I actually looked carefully at the picture (I had looked at the engadget video which only showed a magnified view of the right-side keys), I see the Alt key.

And thanks for clueing me in to the manual on Amazon. I guess I never scrolled down that far. Yes, mine was a head-smacker of a dumb, useless post, but I'm very grateful for your help. Will now place my order.

I've also heard that, unlike the current software, when you bring up the SYM menu it stays open until you close it so you can choose multiple numbers or symbols without having to hit the SYM key each time.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:40 PM   #92
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In otherwords, BUGS! I've seen bugs in the Safari using on the iPad.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:34 PM   #93
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danachee,
Thanks so much. I was going by the post I responded to, which said, "They should've at least included an alt key for the top row of the keyboard or something." Now that I actually looked carefully at the picture (I had looked at the engadget video which only showed a magnified view of the right-side keys), I see the Alt key.

And thanks for clueing me in to the manual on Amazon. I guess I never scrolled down that far. Yes, mine was a head-smacker of a dumb, useless post, but I'm very grateful for your help. Will now place my order.
My fault, I guess I should've RTFM
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:12 PM   #94
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i don't think i understand the delirium

fairly new to ebooks which may be the problem but the e-ink readers i've viewed seemed slightly blurry as the "print' wasn't really black

also the books are more expensive - haven't paid more than $6 for anything and that was for a 3 book collection and had no DRM - everything else was less than $5 (all DRM free)

and from what i understand the kindle is pretty limited as far as magazines and newspapers (and more expensive subs)

is this kinda like Apple fanbois/goils
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:31 PM   #95
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The new K3 Users Guide is now available on Amazon in AZW or PDF format:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...deId=200317150

The manual appears to answer most of the questions I have been seeing in threads on the K3.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:23 PM   #96
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also the books are more expensive - haven't paid more than $6 for anything and that was for a 3 book collection and had no DRM - everything else was less than $5 (all DRM free)
Not likely for the same books that you're saying are more expensive though I wouldn't think.

If you can get what you want to read DRM free and cheap that's great, I love Webscription and some of the small pubs myself, but if you want to read anything from one of the big publishers it's going to have DRM and it's going to be priced basically the same no matter what reader you have or where you buy. The Kindle does however have the biggest selection out there (B&N might be close?).
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:33 PM   #97
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again, responding as a noob in this arena
it really "feels" like the big publishers are going bye-bye relatively soon

although hopefully, there will still be lots of work for freelance editors - authors do need a bit of help
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:38 PM   #98
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again, responding as a noob in this arena
it really "feels" like the big publishers are going bye-bye relatively soon
To at least some extent I thin you're right they'll either start to die or evolve.

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although hopefully, there will still be lots of work for freelance editors - authors do need a bit of help
Absolutely.
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:23 AM   #99
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Manual states on page 39:
Thank's for pointing out that the manual is available!

On page 141 the user guide describes the "turn wireless off" menu function:

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Turn Wireless Off— turns off Whispernet wireless service. When Whispernet is off, this option will change to Turn Wireless On. For Kindle models that include both 3G and Wi-Fi, turning wireless off disables 3G and Wi-Fi connectivity.
So, it seems to me that in HW terms the wifi and 3g are probably on the same mini pci-e card... -in any case my idea of turning power off to wifi only or 3g only is not possible.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:00 PM   #100
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So, it seems to me that in HW terms the wifi and 3g are probably on the same mini pci-e card... -in any case my idea of turning power off to wifi only or 3g only is not possible.
The more I think about it, the more it seems that Amazon is trying to force the device to use WiFi when a connection is available in order to save on 3G costs. The more 3G we all use, the greater the bill Amazon has to pay. I'm really surprised they did not do away with 3G web browsing, other than to Amazon.com, a long time ago. From a business stand point that would make a lot of sense. But if they can force the devices to use WiFi when it is available, they will save on 3G costs. I would sure hate to see book prices or Kindle prices go up because Amazon's 3G bill goes through the roof. So I think their WiFi strategy is a good one. I also think WiFi will be many times faster than 3G, at least from my experience with AT&T 3G in my area.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:27 PM   #101
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The more I think about it, the more it seems that Amazon is trying to force the device to use WiFi when a connection is available in order to save on 3G costs. The more 3G we all use, the greater the bill Amazon has to pay. I'm really surprised they did not do away with 3G web browsing, other than to Amazon.com, a long time ago. From a business stand point that would make a lot of sense. But if they can force the devices to use WiFi when it is available, they will save on 3G costs. I would sure hate to see book prices or Kindle prices go up because Amazon's 3G bill goes through the roof. So I think their WiFi strategy is a good one. I also think WiFi will be many times faster than 3G, at least from my experience with AT&T 3G in my area.
I think it's a good policy (use wifi where available), however, the confusing wording on the website for international users makes me think they are killing 3G web browsing completely, replacing it with Wifi.

I'm not going to be doing heavy-duty surfing on a Kindle, but I would like to have it in an emergency. In fact, I wouldn't mind them charging for 3G use outside of Kindle Store and Wikipedia, as long as it's per use and the rates are kept low. Of course, if I was paying for it, I'd expect higher speeds.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:21 PM   #102
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The fact that there are no numbers on the K3 keyboard is a deal-breaker. Accessing them from the alt menu would be a pain. I'll stick with my K2.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:40 PM   #103
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The fact that there are no numbers on the K3 keyboard is a deal-breaker. Accessing them from the alt menu would be a pain. I'll stick with my K2.
I think you type numbers on the K3 with alt + one of the top letters.

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Old 07-31-2010, 09:42 PM   #104
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I think you type numbers on the K3 with alt+ one of top letters.
I hope you're right. I wonder if there's a user manual somewhere online for the K3?
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I hope you're right. I wonder if there's a user manual somewhere online for the K3?
here it is:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...0627414&sr=1-1


To select numbers you have to press the Symbol Key (Sym) and select it with the 5-way (page 15/16 and 27/28 at the manual)

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And Alt-key is also possible (page 144):

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7.3 Kindle Shortcuts
Global Shortcuts
While typing, you can use the top row of the keyboard to enter numbers. From left to
right, starting with Q, the letters in the top row of the keyboard represent the numbers
1 through 9. The letter P represents the number 0. To enter a number: Press and hold
Alt and press a letter in the top row of the keyboard. For example, Alt + Q types
the number 1, and Alt + U types the number 7.
When typing, delete all the characters you typed: Alt + Del .
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