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Old 07-30-2009, 11:13 PM   #1
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Touch-screen non-eInk readers?
If there were a touch-screen Jetbook, I would buy that. If there were a backlit, touch-screen Jetbook, I would buy two.

Is there such a thing? Not an EB1150, screen tech is pretty old, low DPI. And I have 2 REB1100s already. I also have a Smart Q7, but it's in China being "repaired".

I'm sorta wanting to find a dedicated device. Should support (X)HTML and/or ePub. Anywhere from 5 to 8 inch size.

Is anyone rumored to be making one with PixelQi?

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If there were a touch-screen Jetbook, I would buy that. If there were a backlit, touch-screen Jetbook, I would buy two.

Is there such a thing? Not an EB1150, screen tech is pretty old, low DPI. And I have 2 REB1100s already. I also have a Smart Q7, but it's in China being "repaired".

I'm sorta wanting to find a dedicated device. Should support (X)HTML and/or ePub. Anywhere from 5 to 8 inch size.

Is anyone rumored to be making one with PixelQi?

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If you add touch-screen and/or backlit to jetBook the quality of the screen will be not so perfect like now. Sony 700 is a good example.
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The Sony is an eInk screen. No want.

The touch-screens I've seen are perfectly fine. Maybe adding an overlay to a Jetbook would reduce its clarity -- but I'm not proposing that.

I'm just wondering if anyone is making a decent LCD reader with a touch-screen these days.

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I'm just wondering if anyone is making a decent LCD reader with a touch-screen these days.
They call it an "iPhone."

There are plenty of PDAs and phones with touchscreens that work as ebook readers. The problem may be in finding one with larger than a 3" screen.
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They call it an "iPhone."

There are plenty of PDAs and phones with touchscreens that work as ebook readers. The problem may be in finding one with larger than a 3" screen.
yes, another problem is eye strain occurs when you read more than
20 minutes... . I have iPod touch and I tried use it as eBook reader just one time. After it I deleted Stanza and don't use it for eBook reading any more.
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I used a Clié to read ebooks for a couple of years before I looked for a dedicated ebook device. I never had any problems with eyestrain, but the short battery life drove me crazy.

However, most of the time I read it with the backlight off to preserve battery life.
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If you add touch-screen and/or backlit to jetBook the quality of the screen will be not so perfect like now. Sony 700 is a good example.
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I don't believe that the 700 is a good example. I think it was designed incorrectly by introducing 2 things at the same time: the front light and the anti-reflection, diffused touch screen. The introduction of the light forced Sony to put the touch screen further away from the e-ink surface. Because it was diffused, the further away it is, the more blurry the text will become. In addition the type of diffusion used did not reduce the reflections but only spread them out over a larger area.

One does wonder what the 700 could have been if they had done the touch screen right. As for the light I don't really think a built in one is necessary as there are better alternatives without the compromises. From what I've read the iRex products have a touch screen but do not suffer the same ill effects as the 700.
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The Sony is an eInk screen. No want.

The touch-screens I've seen are perfectly fine. Maybe adding an overlay to a Jetbook would reduce its clarity -- but I'm not proposing that.

I'm just wondering if anyone is making a decent LCD reader with a touch-screen these days.

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Unfortunately I fear that manufacturers will not bring one out with an LCD. Most have already abandoned LCD for e-ink simply because that's what the trend is. And many buyers think, wrongly so, that an LCD such as one on the Jetbook would be just like their computer monitor.

My advice is to get the Jetbook. Getting around in it via the buttons sometimes involves a number of steps and hand movements but it is surprisingly effective.
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If there were a touch-screen Jetbook, I would buy that. If there were a backlit, touch-screen Jetbook, I would buy two.

Is there such a thing? Not an EB1150, screen tech is pretty old, low DPI. And I have 2 REB1100s already. I also have a Smart Q7, but it's in China being "repaired".

I'm sorta wanting to find a dedicated device. Should support (X)HTML and/or ePub. Anywhere from 5 to 8 inch size.

Is anyone rumored to be making one with PixelQi?

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I have been wanting the same for quite some time.

I do use the Smartq7 now and am enjoying it as an ebook reader using WinCE and Alreader. The only thing is the battery monitor doesn't seem that reliable in it.
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Well, the JetBook doesn't do links, either, I believe. NuvoMedia had all this stuff 8-10 years ago. It doesn't take much imagination, but that is apparently too much to ask from most companies. (I have hope for the JetBook, though.)

I'm also hopeful someone will get smart and make a touch-screen PixelQi reader in the 5-8 inch range.

Maybe someone will make a decent, hackable tablet with such a screen, and I'll buy that.

Guess I'll have to get my Smart Q7 up to speed when it comes back from China. It's my only current hope.

@bjkel: looks like Mer is coming along -- in a few months, I expect most of the major stuff will be ironed out. It'll probably be the go-to OS. (You can drop the Hildon stuff, and install LXDE, for instance. Having a living Jaunty ARM distribution will make things livable.)

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Is there such a thing? Not an EB1150, screen tech is pretty old, low DPI. And I have 2 REB1100s already. I also have a Smart Q7, but it's in China being "repaired".
What about the 7" Jointech JE100? I have no personal experience with it though. It looks like a cross between a PDA and iPhone.

or what about the REB1100's big brother (the 8.2" REB 1200)?

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What about the 7" Jointech JE100? I have no personal experience with it though. It looks like a cross between a PDA and iPhone.

or what about the REB1100's big brother (the 8.2" REB 1200)?

p.s. check our LCD E-Book Reader Matrix wiki!
That looks good! But it's WinCE... which makes me wince.

Still, I'm not sure that it's a step up from the Q7 -- the Q7 seems to have more memory, and better specs overall. Like most hardware, its main problem is bad software design/integration. And it can use WinCE.

As for the REB1200, well, I remember drooling over it back in the day. Hard to find on eBay, still.

I'm going to have to hit the lottery, and then start a company that makes the things I want. What should I name it? Banana?

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If it's backlit and has color, I'll buy one too...
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