Are DRM infections dying out?

Ken Maltby · 03-19-2013, 07:55 AM

Is it just me or are more and more ebooks showing up without DRM complicating the ereading experience?

It is getting so that when I purchase a new ebook and try to remove the
infection, the process fails because there is no infection there. Then I am
sitting there trying to figure out what "went wrong", until the I finally notice
the healthy condition of the book.

It's not just the lessor known authors either, I just bought Orson Scott Card's
"The Lost Gate" from Barns & Noble and No DRM! What is the world coming to
when you try to jump through a hoop and it evaporates in your face?

Are we able to look forward to a time when healthy ebooks are the norm and
no curative measures required?

Luck;
Ken

Joy736 · 03-19-2013, 08:10 AM

Yeah for no DRM!

In the Netherlands, as of the beginning of this year, we now have about 85% DRM-free books, including international bestsellers and all.

My non-Dutch books come from Amazon, but I can't tell if they have DRM

Turtle91 · 03-19-2013, 08:13 AM

I certainly hope so!!

I was just reading about TOR dropping their DRM requirements, and I'm sure other publishers will follow soon...it's such a money waster for them.

I MUCH prefer to buy from people who don't treat me like a criminal. I refuse to buy gas at locations that require me to pay before I can pump just because someone else has driven off without paying. I like the simple statement that some author's use: We are providing this book DRM free so that you can enjoy the book...please don't pirate it.

Now, if they would only lower the prices to reflect the money they are NOT spending on DRM...

Oh yeah - thanks for the reminder that Gate Thief book 2 is out today. Yay!!

mobilelover · 03-20-2013, 02:21 AM

what is DRM

if you are getting books without infection what is the problem do you want it to be infected with some malware

glamourgenet · 03-20-2013, 03:32 AM

I wish the phrase "DRM infection" would hurry up and die out.

HarryT · 03-20-2013, 03:46 AM

How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.

DreamWriter · 03-20-2013, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joy736

My non-Dutch books come from Amazon, but I can't tell if they have DRM

At Amazon, if it states "Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited" in the Product Details section on the e-book's product page, that means it does not have DRM.

EowynCarter · 03-20-2013, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.

Yes. That the only sutiation I understand DRM -> renting.

But not for buying...

latepaul · 03-20-2013, 05:12 AM

I've bought 28 ebooks this year and only 1 of them had no DRM. So no, in my experience it's not going away.

spindlegirl · 03-20-2013, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.

Our library has a growing selection of "Open Epub" books, I've borrowed a few of them, DRM-free.

glamourgenet · 03-20-2013, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindlegirl

Our library has a growing selection of "Open Epub" books, I've borrowed a few of them, DRM-free.

If you have borrowed a library book, it contains DRM - you appear to be suggesting that because the book can be read on a large number of devices, it doesn't have DRM; without DRM, a library book cannot be returned to the library. DRM allows the library book to have a 'timer' within it that counts how long you've had it checked out for.

John F · 03-20-2013, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindlegirl

Our library has a growing selection of "Open Epub" books, I've borrowed a few of them, DRM-free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourgenet

If you have borrowed a library book, it contains DRM - you appear to be suggesting that because the book can be read on a large number of devices, it doesn't have DRM; without DRM, a library book cannot be returned to the library. DRM allows the library book to have a 'timer' within it that counts how long you've had it checked out for.

I believe that spindlegirl is correct.

Quote:

... you appear to be suggesting that because the book can be read on a large number of devices, it doesn't have DRM...

She isn't suggesting that. There is no DRM on an Open EPub.

Bookworm_Girl · 03-20-2013, 09:01 AM

Here is the definition of Open eBooks from OverDrive's press release when the new format was announced. These books still mean one copy = one user for check-out. They cannot be returned early like DRM'ed books which has been a recent topic of discussion on MR.

Quote:

Open eBooks: DRM-free eBooks in both EPUB and PDF formats are being added to OverDrive's catalog for libraries. These OverDrive Open eBooks will be compatible with nearly any eBook reader or software that can display EPUB and PDF files. Titles from Harlequin's Carina Press, Saddleback Educational Publishing, and Rourke Publishing will be among the first DRM-free eBooks available to libraries.

spindlegirl · 03-20-2013, 10:25 AM

There is no DRM on open epub books. Occasionally I've forgotten I had the book and deleted it months later. I also was able to convert it to mobi and read it on my kindle during the time. With drm-free books it is up to the borrower to respect the guidelines.

usuallee · 03-20-2013, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.

Actually I downloaded an audiobook from my library's Overdrive server recently and was pretty surprised to note that it was just regular mp3 files - no DRM at all. This was for a popular, big-publishing-house title first released a few years ago.

03-19-2013, 07:55 AM	#1
Ken Maltby Wizard Posts: 4,465 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA,	Are DRM infections dying out? Is it just me or are more and more ebooks showing up without DRM complicating the ereading experience? It is getting so that when I purchase a new ebook and try to remove the infection, the process fails because there is no infection there. Then I am sitting there trying to figure out what "went wrong", until the I finally notice the healthy condition of the book. It's not just the lessor known authors either, I just bought Orson Scott Card's "The Lost Gate" from Barns & Noble and No DRM! What is the world coming to when you try to jump through a hoop and it evaporates in your face? Are we able to look forward to a time when healthy ebooks are the norm and no curative measures required? Luck; Ken

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03-19-2013, 08:10 AM	#2
Joy736 Addict Posts: 311 Karma: 1078442 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Netherlands Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Yeah for no DRM! In the Netherlands, as of the beginning of this year, we now have about 85% DRM-free books, including international bestsellers and all. My non-Dutch books come from Amazon, but I can't tell if they have DRM

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Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,093 Karma: 18727053 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	I certainly hope so!! I was just reading about TOR dropping their DRM requirements, and I'm sure other publishers will follow soon...it's such a money waster for them. I MUCH prefer to buy from people who don't treat me like a criminal. I refuse to buy gas at locations that require me to pay before I can pump just because someone else has driven off without paying. I like the simple statement that some author's use: We are providing this book DRM free so that you can enjoy the book...please don't pirate it. Now, if they would only lower the prices to reflect the money they are NOT spending on DRM... Oh yeah - thanks for the reminder that Gate Thief book 2 is out today. Yay!!

03-20-2013, 02:21 AM	#4
mobilelover Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 670838 Join Date: Mar 2013 Device: ipad	what is DRM if you are getting books without infection what is the problem do you want it to be infected with some malware

03-20-2013, 03:32 AM	#5
glamourgenet Nameless Being	I wish the phrase "DRM infection" would hurry up and die out.

03-20-2013, 03:46 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	How could libraries operate without DRM? It's essential for some aspects of reading books.

03-20-2013, 05:12 AM	#9
latepaul Wizard Posts: 1,264 Karma: 10203040 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)	I've bought 28 ebooks this year and only 1 of them had no DRM. So no, in my experience it's not going away.

03-20-2013, 10:25 AM	#14
spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	There is no DRM on open epub books. Occasionally I've forgotten I had the book and deleted it months later. I also was able to convert it to mobi and read it on my kindle during the time. With drm-free books it is up to the borrower to respect the guidelines.

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