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09-11-2013, 10:39 AM | #136 |
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You are right, the VAT on cd's and dvd's is also the high tarif. However, e-books are considered software. That remains, so it is still not allowed to download unless offered freely by the publisher/writer.
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But the VAT was your justification for ebooks being considered software.
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No, it was added justification. There were several items about this some time ago. The difference in VAT between books and e-books is there because e-books are not considered books, but software.
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I was looking around and according to this (in Dutch) and this (in English) ebooks don't benefit from the lower VAT because they are considered services at a European level. Quote:
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Seems suspiciously like discrimination to me as well as invasion of privacy. Helen |
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"A person called Mr. X on MobileRead is spreading books on the internet. We have determined that it is likely that you are a good friend of his. What is his name and where does he live?" Then I could just give them the finger and slam the door shut and they couldn't do anything about that. If they'd have a judge's warrant to come ask for this information, and have some police officers with them, then that would change the situation. Quote:
The problem is that stores have to acquire all Dutch books through Centraal Boekhuis. If BREIN persuades them (CB) to put something like "Buying books from CB makes it obligatory to provide a customer's personal data to BREIN if they want it. If you don't, then you can't sell our books", then the stores are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can't give CB (and thereore, BREIN) "the finger", because for a vendor, there is no other place to acquire Dutch books. Not as far as I know; there were, but they are either bankrupt, or bought by CB. One of the questions asked in parliament addresses this exact issue. |
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I understand that a small company cannot survive without it's main supplier even if they win eventually. This equates to bullying IMO. I do not think that a vender can legally share actual credit card information unless the credit card holder agrees, but I may be wrong on this. If I was buying books for the purpose of uploading them ( always seemed a bit of a peculiar thing to do) I would use a prepaid credit card and remove the watermark etc. The chances of someone getting your reader and saying aha this is my big chance to get into the piracy game seem pretty slim, unless it is a young naïve family member. Could happen. Worse things do happen accidentally every day. In my condo building a neighbour accidentally caused pretty severe water damage to several units below her with no insurance Looking at a hazmat bill for about $60K and one person is talking about suing to get the actual walls replaced). No way she can even fight the $60K. I guess we will wait and see what develops, but I personally vote on a good dismantling of Brein. Helen |
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I'm glad that in the Netherlands, it's obligatory to have an assurance against situations like this. It's called "Persoonlijke Aansprakelijkheidsverzekering"; a liberal translation would be "Insurance against being personally accountable". It protects you against having to pay for heavy damage you may cause accidentally. (As long as you don't do it every week.) However, if the insurance needs to cover you, then your monthly fee will go up for several years. Therefore, if the damage is not too big (smaller than the total of the extra fee over these several years), people may opt to just leave the insurance out of it and just pay straight away if they have the money. Quote:
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I wonder what Brein would do if someone in China pirated the books, watermark and all. My guess is nothing. Plus I am pretty sure this is a case of closing the barn door after the horse is gone. Helen |
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The translation in American English is "a personal liability" policy. Not legally required here, but many do have them. (Mine costs about $200 a year).
The term for BREIN's tactics are not bullying, but extortion... |
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I looked up personal liability insurance and am still unclear. I gather it is extended coverage of existing insurance and of no use separately? How useful is it to you (what additional coverage do you have)? Helen |
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An employer and employee have a pre-aranged agreement regarding pay. I have made no such agreement to pay anyone for a book. I have not broken my word to anyone if I make a copy. And reading a copy of a book one didn't pay for doesn't deprive anyone of a penny. I can go to a library in a city I don't live in and sit there and read a book bought with somebody else's tax money. i have paid anything and, according to you, I now owe the author the cover price. Ludicrous. Quote:
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