Outrageous Pricing - Page 3

mrsp · 10-30-2007, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

I think they are anticipating the demand and targeting the bigger markets without regard to onesy and twosy business at this point and they seem to be overwhelmed at the moment and not hungry to make sales.

Dale

I think this is the real reason - they have set their US price to compete with Sony while expecting the rest of the world to subsidise their marketing strategy. They havent answered my query about VAT and their explanation that others companies do the same thing suggests that they won't be answering.

Like Harry said, I have to decide if its worth the price to me and so far I would have to say that its not. Between their claim that the policy is fair, their silence on email and now the shipping delay, I am suffering from a whole lot of indignation so sitting on the fence a while longer is looking mighty comfortable again.

Whereas previously I had ruled out the Sony, now that I find I can get one for $US92 cheaper than the gen3, its worth me waiting to see some reviews and comparisons and rethinking its limitations.

And while they maintain their 'fair' pricing policy, its worth waiting to see if US resellers emerge and to see whether the Amazon Kindle eventuates and how it compares as presumably that will be sold in US dollars.

In the meantime, $US425 buys me a whole pile of paper books (as much as I despise the space they take up!)....

I guess I am a bit foolish in this day and age for expecting companies to want my business enough to extend to me a fair deal and some decent service although interestingly that is something I do get from my local booksellers.

JSWolf · 10-31-2007, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Only if the terms are the same. Warranty costs definitely impact the cost of doing business. Why limit to Euros and dollars? They could price in all know currencies I suppose. I think they are anticipating the demand and targeting the bigger markets without regard to onesy and twosy business at this point and they seem to be overwhelmed at the moment and not hungry to make sales.

Dale

If the warranty really is 2 years for people in the EU who purchase the Gen3, then it really is unfair that people in the US get shafted that 1 year.

HarryT · 10-31-2007, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Only if the terms are the same. Warranty costs definitely impact the cost of doing business. Why limit to Euros and dollars? They could price in all know currencies I suppose. I think they are anticipating the demand and targeting the bigger markets without regard to onesy and twosy business at this point and they seem to be overwhelmed at the moment and not hungry to make sales.

Dale

They're pricing in British Pounds too, by the way. £245 for the basic, £315 for the deluxe.

JSWolf · 10-31-2007, 03:32 AM

So why can't people from the UK pay in US dollars? given the exchange rate, it would come out cheaper for the UK buyers.

HarryT · 10-31-2007, 03:50 AM

<shrug>

They set the rules. They've said that only people in the US can pay in US$, and that's the way it is. All we, as customers, can do is to decide whether or not to buy from them. They have a right to charge different prices to people in different countries if they wish to do so.

Ours not to reason why...

JSWolf · 10-31-2007, 03:53 AM

I have the solution... Have someone in the US pay for the Gen3 and have it sent to someone in the UK.

tribble · 10-31-2007, 03:55 AM

@JSWolf: You should stop whining about the pricing policies. You are in the states, so buy it for a cheaper price than we europeans do. Be happy about it.

And for everyone else. There is more to setting prices than just tax, customs and warranty. You have to consider distribution channels, support possibillities and especially - what are the users willing to pay to maximize profit.

I personally dont like paying more than the rest of the world, but it is like it is. Now i say: Shut up everyone about the pricing, and start enjoying the Gen3 CyBook. Its a nice piece of hardware and i personally think its better than the Sony. (though i havent seen the 505 yet.)

So get a good ebook and start reading.

Alexander Turcic · 10-31-2007, 04:58 AM

We Europeans are used to paying more than our friends over in the US. It's not fair, but that's how it is ;(

Talking about unfairness, I am going to buy a new Dell system, and I figured out that it would be around 30% cheaper if I bought it in the US (not considering shipping costs, etc.).

HarryT · 10-31-2007, 05:00 AM

Totally agree, Tribble. Bookeen can charge whatever they want for it - all we have to do is decide whether or not to buy it, and that's purely a personal decision for each of us to make.

frozenpeas43 · 10-31-2007, 06:37 AM

Wow, we wait all that time for a European e-book seller and it's STILL cheaper to ship a Sony from the US.

I paid $259 for my 505 + maybe $30 for USPS shipping to Korea. Mark it as personal effects and bingo, a reader for less than $300 shipped.

I'm so glad I don't live in Rip off Britain (Europe?) anymore.

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10-31-2007, 03:32 AM	#34
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,943 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	So why can't people from the UK pay in US dollars? given the exchange rate, it would come out cheaper for the UK buyers.

10-31-2007, 03:50 AM	#35
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	<shrug> They set the rules. They've said that only people in the US can pay in US$, and that's the way it is. All we, as customers, can do is to decide whether or not to buy from them. They have a right to charge different prices to people in different countries if they wish to do so. Ours not to reason why...

10-31-2007, 03:53 AM	#36
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,943 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I have the solution... Have someone in the US pay for the Gen3 and have it sent to someone in the UK.

10-31-2007, 03:55 AM	#37
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	@JSWolf: You should stop whining about the pricing policies. You are in the states, so buy it for a cheaper price than we europeans do. Be happy about it. And for everyone else. There is more to setting prices than just tax, customs and warranty. You have to consider distribution channels, support possibillities and especially - what are the users willing to pay to maximize profit. I personally dont like paying more than the rest of the world, but it is like it is. Now i say: Shut up everyone about the pricing, and start enjoying the Gen3 CyBook. Its a nice piece of hardware and i personally think its better than the Sony. (though i havent seen the 505 yet.) So get a good ebook and start reading.

10-31-2007, 04:58 AM	#38
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	We Europeans are used to paying more than our friends over in the US. It's not fair, but that's how it is ;( Talking about unfairness, I am going to buy a new Dell system, and I figured out that it would be around 30% cheaper if I bought it in the US (not considering shipping costs, etc.).

10-31-2007, 05:00 AM	#39
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Totally agree, Tribble. Bookeen can charge whatever they want for it - all we have to do is decide whether or not to buy it, and that's purely a personal decision for each of us to make.

10-31-2007, 06:37 AM	#40
frozenpeas43 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Sony Reader	Wow, we wait all that time for a European e-book seller and it's STILL cheaper to ship a Sony from the US. I paid $259 for my 505 + maybe $30 for USPS shipping to Korea. Mark it as personal effects and bingo, a reader for less than $300 shipped. I'm so glad I don't live in Rip off Britain (Europe?) anymore.