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Old 04-16-2015, 04:40 PM   #46
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I'm saddened to hear that you place no value on a good book. For me personally, quality means a lot more than price, and that's why I buy books from mainstream publishers and am happy to pay the asking price.

Yes, of course you can download 40 free books in a month. There might even be one readable one amongst them. But personally I don't want to have to wade through the 39 that are total crap to find it.
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Old 04-16-2015, 04:45 PM   #47
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There are many very good cheap books (anything below $5 is cheap for me), but I have yet to see a very good free book unless it is public domain, free offering of a established writer, promotional first of a long series or - surprisingly enough - fanfiction.
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Old 04-16-2015, 06:21 PM   #48
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Oh, I've seen it too. It's just not something to which I can relate.

At the price of a relatively forgettable (or slightly better) twelve-pack of beer (bottles), I find the enjoyment I get out of a novel (even an average one) to be quite the bargain--electronic OR physical. What it costs a publisher to "make" an ebook doesn't cross my mind. I simply can't think of any cheaper pasttime involving retail purchases that I would enjoy as much (or even equally).
Yet, if you were reviewing beer, the price is part of the process.

If you are drinking Budweiser (US), VB (Aus) or whatever is generic in Britain, you wouldn't expect to pay much for it.

If you were drinking what was advertised as a high quality, limited production, craft brewery produced product, then the price is a factor. If you paid 3 times the Bud price, and it tastes like Bud, you'll be really disappointed and ripped-off. If you paid the Bud price, you might be disappointed (to a lesser extent), but not necessarily ripped-off.

Price is usually taken to be an indication of quality, especially in marketplaces with a lot of commodity products, such as beer or books.
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Old 04-16-2015, 06:31 PM   #49
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Yea, that was really all the further down the beer analogy rabbit-hole I was interested in traveling. My point was that I find even "just OK" books to be a bargain at current retail prices. I'd probably pay a good-bit more for the enjoyment I get from reading them.

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Price is usually taken to be an indication of quality, especially in marketplaces with a lot of commodity products, such as beer or books.
Beer? Yes. Books? No. Not in my experience anyway. The price of newly-released books has always been the price of newly-released books (with slight increases for inflation). *shrug*

Sure, that may be changing now. But the availability of cheaper and even free ebooks doesn't make prices I've always been happy to pay suddenly outrageous.

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Old 04-16-2015, 07:13 PM   #50
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I'm with you. I borrow Sandford and King from the library. Most of the bestsellers come to the library. Backlists, which used to be cheaper, are now close to the price of a new publication (in some cases). Rather than pay $8, I ordered used paperbacks, at $4.

But there are exceptions. I bought Harper Lee's new book, in hardcover and ebook form, and I think the ebook was close to $17. But it is not like she will come out with another book next year.

The first go at Agency really changed how I look at ebooks. I used to not think twice about buying a $9.99 bestseller. But when they went to $16.99, I went to the library. There is no way I will be able to read all the books I have in my lifetime. So if it takes a couple months on the waiting list, that is okay.
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Old 04-16-2015, 08:01 PM   #51
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I'm saddened to hear that you place no value on a good book. For me personally, quality means a lot more than price, and that's why I buy books from mainstream publishers and am happy to pay the asking price.

Yes, of course you can download 40 free books in a month. There might even be one readable one amongst them. But personally I don't want to have to wade through the 39 that are total crap to find it.
Conan50 didn't say he got the 40 free ebooks from big publishers. All 40 might be readable.
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Old 04-16-2015, 09:40 PM   #52
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I used to drive an hour and a half to Madison, Wisconsin to hit the used bookstores around the University of Wisconsin. I would spend several hours looking, and come out with $100 spent and a big bag of books. I read all the time, and soon I had a house full of books. I thought life was great. Then Amazon came along, and I could use the wish list and buy a couple of books at a time, and I stopped driving to Madison. And I had the books in a couple of days. Now, with ereaders, when I find a book I want to read, I can be reading in a couple of minutes. I use calibre, wishlists, goodreads, and other tools to keep track of what I want to read and find other books. I got rid of thousands of paper books. I read more than ever, and overall I am sure I am spending less than ever. No clutter, no waiting for the mail, no long car trips. I don't care if I spend $12.99 - I used to spend $25 for hardcovers all the time, or 12 or more for trade paper, now I average $8 and I think it's great.
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:30 AM   #53
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I used to drive an hour and a half to Madison, Wisconsin to hit the used bookstores around the University of Wisconsin. I would spend several hours looking, and come out with $100 spent and a big bag of books. I read all the time, and soon I had a house full of books. I thought life was great. Then Amazon came along, and I could use the wish list and buy a couple of books at a time, and I stopped driving to Madison. And I had the books in a couple of days. Now, with ereaders, when I find a book I want to read, I can be reading in a couple of minutes. I use calibre, wishlists, goodreads, and other tools to keep track of what I want to read and find other books. I got rid of thousands of paper books. I read more than ever, and overall I am sure I am spending less than ever. No clutter, no waiting for the mail, no long car trips. I don't care if I spend $12.99 - I used to spend $25 for hardcovers all the time, or 12 or more for trade paper, now I average $8 and I think it's great.
My experience is very similar. I've got rid of most of the books which were cluttering up my house, replacing them with ebooks which reside on the hard disk of a single computer (and on a backup disk, of course) and from time to time on various reading devices. I'm not sentimental about paper books. For me it has never been about the presentation, only the content. So for me, EBooks are ideal. And the price and sheer variety and availability are all headed in the right direction. Yes, we are still recovering from a hundred years or so of cartel operations, but competition has entered this industry like a breath of fresh air.
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Yet, if you were reviewing beer, the price is part of the process.

If you are drinking Budweiser (US), VB (Aus) or whatever is generic in Britain, you wouldn't expect to pay much for it.

If you were drinking what was advertised as a high quality, limited production, craft brewery produced product, then the price is a factor. If you paid 3 times the Bud price, and it tastes like Bud, you'll be really disappointed and ripped-off. If you paid the Bud price, you might be disappointed (to a lesser extent), but not necessarily ripped-off.

Price is usually taken to be an indication of quality, especially in marketplaces with a lot of commodity products, such as beer or books.
I also don't drink generic beer either. For the most part, beer and books are not commodities. That's why there are micro breweries (in the US) charging more and why big named authors make big bucks.
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My book buying habits changed a lot because of vision issues. Before that though, I only bought paperbacks and used books. If it was a book I really wanted, I put my name in at the library for the hardcover. In the last 8 years, I mostly get audiobooks because they are easier to 'read' for me. So, I regularly pay $14.98 for a book (12 a year), although with whispersync specials, I can now get audios for $1.99-$2.99. Other family members read the ebook. It is sometimes hard to spend those credits, because I want to be sure I'm getting a good book, but so far there has only been on real loser.

For ebooks though, I can count on one hand the number I have spent over $6 for. With my large TBR and library availability, I'll still buy ebooks at higher prices, but it's going to be something I REALLY want.
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