Problems with Adobe Digital Editions Format

fbrII · 08-01-2009, 02:26 PM

I have down loaded a couple of books from Books On Board using the Adobe Digital Editions format. I then import the book into my 700 using the ADE reader. The problem is the formatting is horrible. The font is microscopic and when I enlarge it I run into all kinds of problems, like sentence breaks in the middle of a word, page breaks in the middle of a sentence etc.

Is everybody having the same experience? or is there something I should be doing I'm not aware of?

Any advise will be greatly appreciated.

JSWolf · 08-01-2009, 02:43 PM

It's not a problem with the format. It's a problem with those specific books.

Anyway, which books are they and are you able to strip the DRM? Can you take photos for us to see?

kovidgoyal · 08-01-2009, 02:53 PM

Sounds like they're PDF books.

fbrII · 08-01-2009, 03:10 PM

I did not strip the DRM, the books involved were Dennis Lehane's "Darkness take my Hand" and "The Murder of Roger Ackroyd", Agatha Christie with the black crow on the cover.

Also, on further reflection "Darkness take my Hand" was bought from Diesel Books. With Darkness... I did not get the sentence breaks in the middle of words but the page breaks are bad in both cases the formats were listed as ADE.

Thanks

Lycoming · 08-01-2009, 03:12 PM

Same here Kovid. I use a 505, should I avoid the PDF format? If so what is the alternative?

JSWolf · 08-01-2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Sounds like they're PDF books.

You are correct. BooksOnBoard sells PDF as Adobe Digital Editions which is totally stupid since ADE is a program, not a format. Next time you purchase from BooksOnBoard, make sure what you get is ePub. You don't want PDF. The only thing you can do is see if those eBooks have ePub versions and then ask BooksOnBoard if you can swap for the ePub since you bought PDF in error. Otherwise, you are stuck with them.

JSWolf · 08-01-2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycoming

Same here Kovid. I use a 505, should I avoid the PDF format? If so what is the alternative?

ePub from BooksOnBoard and not PDF.

wallcraft · 08-01-2009, 03:21 PM

Books on Board says that some publishers sell Adobe ePub ebooks as "Adobe Digital Editions", but in my experience an ebook identified as "Adobe Digital Editions" is always a PDF. If there is an Adobe ePub version, then buy that instead. A PDF sold as an ebook should reflow (which is what the Sony is trying to do), so if you get weird sentence breaks I suggest returned this ebook for sub-standard formating. However, the way mobile ADE (e.g. on the Sony) works on PDFs is that it reflows one page at a time. So there is nothing you can do about partial screens of text at the end of each original page.

If you remove the DRM, Calibre can convert it from PDF to ePub or LRF but conversion from PDF is very hit and miss. There are other converters that can work better than Calibre in particular cases.

Lycoming · 08-01-2009, 03:36 PM

Thanks JSWolf and Wallcraft, that clarifies things for me. I'm presently reading Le Carre's latest and it is very difficult to follow the flow with page and word breaks, also the breaks between individuals sentences are non-existent.

fbrII · 08-01-2009, 03:51 PM

Thanks Gentlemen - case solved, I downloaded a book using the Adobe epub rather than ADE format and no problems with the formatting.

Now, If I could strip the DRM so I could load it into Calibre library and create my own tags

08-01-2009, 02:26 PM	#1
fbrII F. BluDevil Posts: 428 Karma: 1152548 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis Missouri Device: Pocketbook Inkpad3 pro, Kobo Libra, Kindle Paperwhite	Problems with Adobe Digital Editions Format I have down loaded a couple of books from Books On Board using the Adobe Digital Editions format. I then import the book into my 700 using the ADE reader. The problem is the formatting is horrible. The font is microscopic and when I enlarge it I run into all kinds of problems, like sentence breaks in the middle of a word, page breaks in the middle of a sentence etc. Is everybody having the same experience? or is there something I should be doing I'm not aware of? Any advise will be greatly appreciated.

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08-01-2009, 02:43 PM	#2
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,983 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	It's not a problem with the format. It's a problem with those specific books. Anyway, which books are they and are you able to strip the DRM? Can you take photos for us to see?

08-01-2009, 02:53 PM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Sounds like they're PDF books.

08-01-2009, 03:10 PM	#4
fbrII F. BluDevil Posts: 428 Karma: 1152548 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis Missouri Device: Pocketbook Inkpad3 pro, Kobo Libra, Kindle Paperwhite	I did not strip the DRM, the books involved were Dennis Lehane's "Darkness take my Hand" and "The Murder of Roger Ackroyd", Agatha Christie with the black crow on the cover. Also, on further reflection "Darkness take my Hand" was bought from Diesel Books. With Darkness... I did not get the sentence breaks in the middle of words but the page breaks are bad in both cases the formats were listed as ADE. Thanks

08-01-2009, 03:12 PM	#5
Lycoming Capt Chaos II Posts: 483 Karma: 33043007 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cornwall, UK Device: iPad2	Same here Kovid. I use a 505, should I avoid the PDF format? If so what is the alternative?

08-01-2009, 03:21 PM	#8
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	Books on Board says that some publishers sell Adobe ePub ebooks as "Adobe Digital Editions", but in my experience an ebook identified as "Adobe Digital Editions" is always a PDF. If there is an Adobe ePub version, then buy that instead. A PDF sold as an ebook should reflow (which is what the Sony is trying to do), so if you get weird sentence breaks I suggest returned this ebook for sub-standard formating. However, the way mobile ADE (e.g. on the Sony) works on PDFs is that it reflows one page at a time. So there is nothing you can do about partial screens of text at the end of each original page. If you remove the DRM, Calibre can convert it from PDF to ePub or LRF but conversion from PDF is very hit and miss. There are other converters that can work better than Calibre in particular cases.

08-01-2009, 03:36 PM	#9
Lycoming Capt Chaos II Posts: 483 Karma: 33043007 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cornwall, UK Device: iPad2	Thanks JSWolf and Wallcraft, that clarifies things for me. I'm presently reading Le Carre's latest and it is very difficult to follow the flow with page and word breaks, also the breaks between individuals sentences are non-existent.

08-01-2009, 03:51 PM	#10
fbrII F. BluDevil Posts: 428 Karma: 1152548 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis Missouri Device: Pocketbook Inkpad3 pro, Kobo Libra, Kindle Paperwhite	Thanks Gentlemen - case solved, I downloaded a book using the Adobe epub rather than ADE format and no problems with the formatting. Now, If I could strip the DRM so I could load it into Calibre library and create my own tags

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