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Old 07-31-2011, 06:46 PM   #46
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It looks like a blowout for Slaughterhouse Five in the other club selection. Don't feel like reading that for the third time so I need not worry about fitting that in. I'll be reading Black Rain once more, and have requested the WWI book (that did not make the vote) from my library.
Yeah to all of this, more or less, see above. I'm also going to read Ask the Dust.
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I haven't started yet; I'll get to it. When is the discussion?
The discussion for A Passage To India will begin around the 17th and the September nominations will begin around the 22nd.
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How many are reading? It's just that it's been so quiet and I wondered... I am reading BTW. Just started today.
I am reading. Now, getting it done...that is the challenge for me.

It may be quieter so far because it's a lottery month - no need for so many posts right now, unlike other months with all the different books being nominated and voted on and so on.
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:52 PM   #49
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I too have started A Passage to India - and I'd love to read Black rain, but cannot find it as ebook over here, will have to go for good old paperback!
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I am too taken by The Etruscan at the moment, that I want to finish to morrow. Right after that, I will start A Passage to India.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:19 PM   #51
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Glad to be more than 3/4s through the Rosetta edition (quite a few typos), leaving me enough time to read Slaughter House Five. Reading A Passage to India has made be appreciate more the Notes for The Master and Margarita (finally finished it last week and have started composing what I hoped to be an intelligible post but it's ending up with more questions than comments). Anna Karenina still has the same May bookmark (as WT Sharpe said in that discussion....'sometime around August.')

I've been wondering why Jon so strongly disliked A Passage to India. Like issybird, I also preferred Room with a View, but quite like A Passage to India.
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I dislike [iA Passage to India[/i] because I found the characters not worth caring about. Nothing really happened that was interesting. The bit in the cave was silly. It felt like reading a cardboard cutout of a book. Like all the characters were 2 dimensional.

Nothing really happened and no real character growth. It was just stale. It went nowhere fast and stayed there.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:18 PM   #53
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It may be quieter so far because it's a lottery month - no need for so many posts right now, unlike other months with all the different books being nominated and voted on and so on.
Could also be because it's summer and vacation time. I've noticed online forum activity tend to slow down during summer.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:51 PM   #54
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I do somewhat agree with you, Jon...I didn't intend my query as a criticism; it was the vehemence of your dislike that made me curious. Reserving further comments for the discussion.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:14 PM   #55
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I do somewhat agree with you, Jon...I didn't intend my query as a criticism; it was the vehemence of your dislike that made me curious. Reserving further comments for the discussion.
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I know you didn't mean it as a putdown at all. I didn't mind answering. Heck, if I'm going to say I didn't like something that much, then anyone has the right to ask me why and I should say why. Which I did.

It just happens that the book is not one that holds up well enough today to be considered a classic. It's not even that well written.
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I'll be joining in this month, as soon as I finish "Dead of Veridon". Mostly because if Jon hates it, it's probably great...
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I know you didn't mean it as a putdown at all. I didn't mind answering. Heck, if I'm going to say I didn't like something that much, then anyone has the right to ask me why and I should say why. Which I did.

It just happens that the book is not one that holds up well enough today to be considered a classic. It's not even that well written.
Masolino d'Amico is an Italian literary critic. He writes
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Forsters studies and describes some of the fundamental traits of the man of every epoch and every country. It is for this reason that his message keeps being valuable, even for our epoch. It is to be foreseen that it will survive."

In fact they keep printing it and people keep reading it. After 80 years and some. And not only in the UK.

Jon, if you have to take as a target something, why don't you do it in a little more realistic way? Constructively like? A propos?
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Masolino d'Amico is an Italian literary critic. He writes
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Forsters studies and describes some of the fundamental traits of the man of every epoch and every country. It is for this reason that his message keeps being valuable, even for our epoch. It is to be foreseen that it will survive."

In fact they keep printing it and people keep reading it. After 80 years and some. And not only in the UK.

Jon, if you have to take as a target something, why don't you do it in a little more realistic way? Constructively like? A propos?
But I've also read critic reviews the opposite way where the critic said something wasn't good when in fact, it was good. Look at the thread for fantasy authors you (and I) should never read. There is a lot of disagreement there. And given that this Italian critic liked something so bad means he's poor at his job.

Some things hold up well over time anbd other things just become dated.A Passage to India is one of those that's become dated.
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But I've also read critic reviews the opposite way where the critic said something wasn't good when in fact, it was good. Look at the thread for fantasy authors you (and I) should never read. There is a lot of disagreement there. And given that this Italian critic liked something so bad means he's poor at his job.

Some things hold up well over time anbd other things just become dated.A Passage to India is one of those that's become dated.
Jon. Come on. The fact that the book is constantly reprinted is also ... what?
You can like and dislike and write what you want of course, but do aim to somone less off target then Forster, one of the most loved writers of his time. Loved now.

D'Amico is a well known and appreciated critic and university professor of English Literature.
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Jon. Come on. The fact that the book is constantly reprinted is also ... what?
You can like and dislike and write what you want of course, but do aim to somone less off target then Forster, one of the most loved writers of his time. Loved now.

D'Amico is a well known and appreciated critic and university professor of English Literature.
Not everyone gets everything correct. And in this case, D'Amico missed the target.

The other issue is why is it that English teachers love books that will cause students to stop reading?
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