Any new Alternate history authors just over the Horizon?

GlenBarrington · 03-11-2012, 02:00 PM

I'm not talking about established authors, but maybe some new authors we've not heard of yet. OK, maybe established authors who don't normally write alternative history.

I'm tired of stories of "what if Germany had won WW2" type stories, or stories about the American Civil War; yes, yes, as wars go, they are important milestones in world history and shaped the world's future, without question. But what about the OTHER major historical milestones?

What about other, less significant events, might a different outcome have had significant implications throughout the generations?

I love Alternate History, but I can see the genre dying out from a lack of willingness to consider ALL of history! All cultures!

shootingMaNs · 03-11-2012, 08:29 PM

I think I've mentioned this before, but Stephen Baxter wrote "Voyage," an alternate history where the Apollo program doesn't get canceled, and we end up going for Mars in the 1980's. If I remember some others, I'll post them.

I also love alternate history, but how many variations of Germany wins WWII, or the South wins the Civil War can there be?

Apache · 03-11-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shootingMaNs

I think I've mentioned this before, but Stephen Baxter wrote "Voyage," an alternate history where the Apollo program doesn't get canceled, and we end up going for Mars in the 1980's. If I remember some others, I'll post them.

I also love alternate history, but how many variations of Germany wins WWII, or the South wins the Civil War can there be?

Harry Harrison wrote a three book series about the Civil War. The British decide to help the South and inadvertently attack a Southern City causing many atrocities. Sherman marches to help the South and both sides reunite to fight the British.
Stars and Stripes Forever
Stars and Stripes in Peril
Stars and Stripes Triumphant.
Apache

GlenBarrington · 03-11-2012, 10:44 PM

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Harry Harrison wrote a three book series about the Civil War. The British decide to help the South and inadvertently attack a Southern City causing many atrocities. Sherman marches to help the South and both sides reunite to fight the British.
Stars and Stripes Forever
Stars and Stripes in Peril
Stars and Stripes Triumphant.
Apache

Yes, I read it, pretty good actually. But We really don't need any more!

AndrewH · 03-11-2012, 10:59 PM

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Harry Harrison wrote a three book series about the Civil War.

He also wrote an alternate history trilogy (West of Eden, Winter in Eden, Return to Eden) in which the dinosaurs didn't go extinct. It wasn't to my taste, so I didn't get very far before giving up on it.

Cherie Priest's Clockwork Century series, beginning with Boneshaker, is an alternate history steampunk series with zombies (much better than it sounds). Boneshaker explores an alternate Seattle circa 1880.

xg4bx · 03-12-2012, 12:37 AM

my favorite alternate history novel (if you can find it) is The Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad. its the science fiction novel Hitler would have written had he come to the states to be a sci fi author after WW1.

"An alternate world novel in which Hitler leaves Germany after World War I, the Nazis never take power, Hitler emigrates to the United States, where he becomes an SF writer and writes LORD OF THE SWASTIKA, the novel within the novel, his fantasy of Nazi Germany in a world where the real thing never was. With an academic afterward explaining why such a thing as Nazi Germany could never have happen except in an heroic fantasy novel."

carpetmojo · 03-12-2012, 05:25 AM

DiapDealer · 03-12-2012, 08:22 AM

EDIT: posted in the wrong thread. Feel free to ignore.

GlenBarrington · 03-12-2012, 12:21 PM

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EDIT: posted in the wrong thread. Feel free to ignore.

God help me! I CAN'T ignore! ARGHHHHH!

DiapDealer · 03-12-2012, 12:44 PM

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God help me! I CAN'T ignore! ARGHHHHH!

Sorry, I'll see if I can't make it easier for you, then.

bill_mchale · 03-12-2012, 03:09 PM

Personally I would like to see an alternate history novel where the British and Prussians loose the Seven Years war to the Russian-French-Austrian alliance. Even know exactly where the point of departure would be... Empress Elizabeth of Russia survives say 6 months longer than she does in our timeline. This forces Prussia out of the war. The British are forced to make peace and though they retain their colonies, the French do as well.

With the French remaining a threat on the frontier, the American Colonies do not revolt. Without the American Revolution, well now history has gone beyond the easy ability to predict. It seems likely there is at least one more Anglo-French war before the end of the 18th century. But what effect it will have is anybody's guess

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Bill

Doitsu · 03-12-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GlenBarrington

I love Alternate History, but I can see the genre dying out from a lack of willingness to consider ALL of history! All cultures!

Have you already read Poul Anderson's Delenda Est and the other Time Patrol short stories and novelettes?

jrlewis · 03-12-2012, 04:54 PM

Are there any alternate histories that focus on Japan? I'm really interested in the Sengoku period myself.

shootingMaNs · 03-12-2012, 05:21 PM

I think I've posted this link here before, but in a different AH thread.

http://www.uchronia.net/

It's a good site for finding AH. I tried a quick search on Japan, but mostly came up with WWII stuff.

GlenBarrington · 03-12-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bill_mchale

Personally I would like to see an alternate history novel where the British and Prussians loose the Seven Years war to the Russian-French-Austrian alliance. Even know exactly where the point of departure would be... Empress Elizabeth of Russia survives say 6 months longer than she does in our timeline. This forces Prussia out of the war. The British are forced to make peace and though they retain their colonies, the French do as well.

With the French remaining a threat on the frontier, the American Colonies do not revolt. Without the American Revolution, well now history has gone beyond the easy ability to predict. It seems likely there is at least one more Anglo-French war before the end of the 18th century. But what effect it will have is anybody's guess

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Bill

OOOH! that sounds good! why don't you give it a go?

03-11-2012, 02:00 PM	#1
GlenBarrington Cheese Whiz Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a.	Any new Alternate history authors just over the Horizon? I'm not talking about established authors, but maybe some new authors we've not heard of yet. OK, maybe established authors who don't normally write alternative history. I'm tired of stories of "what if Germany had won WW2" type stories, or stories about the American Civil War; yes, yes, as wars go, they are important milestones in world history and shaped the world's future, without question. But what about the OTHER major historical milestones? What about other, less significant events, might a different outcome have had significant implications throughout the generations? I love Alternate History, but I can see the genre dying out from a lack of willingness to consider ALL of history! All cultures!

03-12-2012, 08:22 AM	#8
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	EDIT: posted in the wrong thread. Feel free to ignore. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-12-2012 at 12:45 PM. Reason: posted in wrong thread

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03-11-2012, 08:29 PM	#2
shootingMaNs later... Posts: 199 Karma: 2832520 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Endicott, NY Device: Sony PRS-600, iRiver Story HD, Nook Color Kobo Libra H2O	I think I've mentioned this before, but Stephen Baxter wrote "Voyage," an alternate history where the Apollo program doesn't get canceled, and we end up going for Mars in the 1980's. If I remember some others, I'll post them. I also love alternate history, but how many variations of Germany wins WWII, or the South wins the Civil War can there be?

03-12-2012, 12:37 AM	#6
xg4bx Are you gonna eat that? Posts: 1,633 Karma: 23215128 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ Device: Kindle 3, Nook STG	my favorite alternate history novel (if you can find it) is The Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad. its the science fiction novel Hitler would have written had he come to the states to be a sci fi author after WW1. "An alternate world novel in which Hitler leaves Germany after World War I, the Nazis never take power, Hitler emigrates to the United States, where he becomes an SF writer and writes LORD OF THE SWASTIKA, the novel within the novel, his fantasy of Nazi Germany in a world where the real thing never was. With an academic afterward explaining why such a thing as Nazi Germany could never have happen except in an heroic fantasy novel."

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03-12-2012, 03:09 PM	#11
bill_mchale Wizard Posts: 1,451 Karma: 1550000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch, HPC Evo 4G LTE	Personally I would like to see an alternate history novel where the British and Prussians loose the Seven Years war to the Russian-French-Austrian alliance. Even know exactly where the point of departure would be... Empress Elizabeth of Russia survives say 6 months longer than she does in our timeline. This forces Prussia out of the war. The British are forced to make peace and though they retain their colonies, the French do as well. With the French remaining a threat on the frontier, the American Colonies do not revolt. Without the American Revolution, well now history has gone beyond the easy ability to predict. It seems likely there is at least one more Anglo-French war before the end of the 18th century. But what effect it will have is anybody's guess . -- Bill

03-12-2012, 04:54 PM	#13
jrlewis SF/F Author Posts: 160 Karma: 349656 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Device: Adobe Digital Editions	Are there any alternate histories that focus on Japan? I'm really interested in the Sengoku period myself.

03-12-2012, 05:21 PM	#14
shootingMaNs later... Posts: 199 Karma: 2832520 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Endicott, NY Device: Sony PRS-600, iRiver Story HD, Nook Color Kobo Libra H2O	I think I've posted this link here before, but in a different AH thread. http://www.uchronia.net/ It's a good site for finding AH. I tried a quick search on Japan, but mostly came up with WWII stuff.

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