How do I make either end notes of footnotes in epub? - Page 5

keriah · 08-06-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by capidamonte

ePub supports float:left, float:right doesn't it?

Yes, indeed. And I am using that kind of code to float my images (left or right) so that the text wraps around the small image (to match the appearance in the print book).

But for these note references I do not want the citation to remain in view, which is why I mentioned the (not-yet-available) pop-up.

keriah · 08-06-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keriah

...the (not-yet-available) pop-up.

Liz Daly has posted a video of one of her talks, and in it (at around 5:40) she shows CSS3 doing an image zoom. I could see that being used, in conjunction with a small image for the footnote/citation mark.

See video at: http://tinyurl.com/22nnuv9

JSWolf · 08-07-2010, 02:34 AM

What could be done is the footnote is at the bottom of the screen page that contains the anchor to denote that there is a footnote. But the problem becomes when the footnote is too large and the font too big so there is not enough space on screen.

So that means side notes won't likely work well enough.

JSWolf · 08-07-2010, 02:46 AM

Is this ePub going to be just for the iPad or is it for any reader? Because if it is for any reader then you have to make it such that it works on an unknown screen size with an unknown font size.

GeoffC · 08-07-2010, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

A pop-up window, however, negates the key benefit of a footnote over an end-note, which is the ability to see both the footnote, and the text referring to it, simultaneously.

A possibility could be the jump to an end-note includes a duplicate part of the sentence/paragraph as well as the explanation - so the context is not totally lost.

pdurrant · 08-08-2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

A possibility could be the jump to an end-note includes a duplicate part of the sentence/paragraph as well as the explanation - so the context is not totally lost.

What a good idea. I wonder if I should give it a go in Kidnapped. I've added many more glossary entries for archaic, obscure or Scots words to it, and perhaps context would help in some or all of them. (I did the same in my edition of Kim, although without any context, of course.)

Poppa1956 · 08-08-2010, 03:40 AM

Each book I looked at in the series B&N is offering free each week has endnotes with a link back on each endnote. They probably use coding similar to that suggested above.

keriah · 08-08-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Is this ePub going to be just for the iPad or is it for any reader? Because if it is for any reader then you have to make it such that it works on an unknown screen size with an unknown font size.

Initially for the iPad, but I don't want to be intentionally exclusive to that target.

I liked the idea of the single-use citation, duplicating Bibliography entries (as needed) to handle multiple references to the same citation so that each could do its own proper link-back. As a test, in addition to the full Bibliography page (with no links back), I created a page containing only the citation. It had a link back to the corresponding place in the body of the book. However, that because problematic because I had to include that single-citation page in the 'spine' items (since there was a link to it). So, even though I kept it out of the TOC it was something the user could get to independently, and it because a potentially confusing duplication.

For now, for this book (which, it turns out, actually has few duplicate references to a citation) I am going to create a link on the single (or first) reference in the body of the book and include a link-back to it from the citation in the Bibliography page. For the very few cases that have a second use of the same citation I won't make that a 'live' link in the body.

This solution has spawned as whole new set of questions ... which will be better posted as new questions (threads).

Oldpilot · 11-01-2010, 08:50 AM

If your manuscripts are written in MS Word, all footnotes can be converted
into endnotes automatically by saving as web pages.

This is my situation. The endnotes (and returns) work in a Kindle edition and also when opened in my web browser. Yet they don't work when I open the htm file in Sigil. Why is that? All other hotlinks work in the Sigil document.

HarryT · 11-01-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldpilot

If your manuscripts are written in MS Word, all footnotes can be converted
into endnotes automatically by saving as web pages.

This is my situation. The endnotes (and returns) work in a Kindle edition and also when opened in my web browser. Yet they don't work when I open the htm file in Sigil. Why is that? All other hotlinks work in the Sigil document.

Easiest thing to do is to look at the HTML source and see what's broken.

08-07-2010, 02:34 AM	#63
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,931 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What could be done is the footnote is at the bottom of the screen page that contains the anchor to denote that there is a footnote. But the problem becomes when the footnote is too large and the font too big so there is not enough space on screen. So that means side notes won't likely work well enough. Last edited by JSWolf; 08-07-2010 at 02:46 AM.

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08-07-2010, 02:46 AM	#64
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,931 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Is this ePub going to be just for the iPad or is it for any reader? Because if it is for any reader then you have to make it such that it works on an unknown screen size with an unknown font size.

08-08-2010, 03:40 AM	#67
Poppa1956 Evangelist Posts: 487 Karma: 344188 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon, USA Device: Verizon Ellipsis Tablit w/Kindle and Nook apps.	Each book I looked at in the series B&N is offering free each week has endnotes with a link back on each endnote. They probably use coding similar to that suggested above.

11-01-2010, 08:50 AM	#69
Oldpilot Groupie Posts: 184 Karma: 2572 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle	If your manuscripts are written in MS Word, all footnotes can be converted into endnotes automatically by saving as web pages. This is my situation. The endnotes (and returns) work in a Kindle edition and also when opened in my web browser. Yet they don't work when I open the htm file in Sigil. Why is that? All other hotlinks work in the Sigil document.

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