05-26-2019, 12:33 PM | #31 |
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Tall and skinny started out for video. None of the eInk readers have a tall and skinny aspect. It is not a format optimized for reading. Today’s phone are going even further into tall and skinny to claim larger screen size while still being able to be held in the hand.
It’s not a deal breaker, IMHO, but it is an advantage for reading books, PDFs and browsing the web to have a 4:3 or similar aspect ratio. |
05-26-2019, 12:35 PM | #32 |
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Although I prefer reading on devices with a 3:4 aspect ratio myself, it’s perhaps worth noting that the 9:16 or 10:16 aspect ratio of most Android devices is actually far closer to the aspect ratio of the page of a typical paperback book. The traditional paperback has a page that measures about 10x18cm.
Where 4:3 really wins, as several people have already noted, is reading pages “2 up” in landscape mode. |
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I've never really been concerned with aspect ratio with regards to ebooks. I've read ebooks on my iPhone 7+, iPad pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura One, Kindle paperwhite and Kindle Oasis, i.e. my current set of active devices, without noticing a big change in my reading experience. I'm sure others have different experiences in that regards. |
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05-26-2019, 02:44 PM | #35 | |
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But really....I read just fine on my kindle tablets. Just like I read just fine on my iPads even without memory expansion. The difference between $399 for an iPad ad $80 for a Kindle Fire Hd 8 would have me picking the kindle every time if reading books and watching video were the only things I used a tablet for. I have both. Well...I have many devices (but no eInk ones). Since I bought the “New” iPad mini, I no longer use my Fire tablets. Nor my iPad Air 2 for that matter. Not even sure I’ll be taking my Kindle tablet on trips given my mini has 256gig of storage. I will be picking up the new Walmart tablet for $64 to have an Android 9 device |
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05-26-2019, 02:46 PM | #36 | |
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The problem with overly long lines was one of the first things I learned when typesetting with TeX on 8.5 x 11 inch paper (way back in the 1980s); giving the page generous margins fixed that problem. At first it looked strange to me because the typical convention back then among computer people was to use half inch or whatever margins. |
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05-26-2019, 03:02 PM | #37 |
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True, which is why I prefer to read such material on my 10.5” iPad Pro.
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05-26-2019, 04:53 PM | #38 | |
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The video ratio is important on tv only because of the original film ratio being display. want to see letter boxing with the black lines or zoom in to get rid of the black lines but see only part of the picture. I have no idea what the ratio of my Palm Pilot or Tunsten II nor do I care when I got it; the display ratio wasn't even specified or that it did. I do not believe my B&N Nook 1st edition ever mentioned its ratio nor did I care. The main things about a reader is price & resolution for whatever size one prefer or care to pay. My B&N Nook HDX 8.9 is supposed to have neither 16:9 or 4:3 as I've read nor did I care when I bought it. apple just wanted people to believe that the 4:3 ratio is the only way to read a book & never mind that we have books of different ratios on the bookcase & that people will adjust the text display ratio for whatever comfortable it is for them. So is the apple 'trademark' of a 'retina screen' preferable to another company's plain screen that has a higher resolution than the 'retina' screen? I do recall with the intro of the Mac 512 apple claimed that "all you need is the icon" on the computer; always wonder why a keyboard was part of the apple computer. The iphone now has a "notch"; does that make it better as a phone? The other companies should use it to their advantage by using the "notch" area for a status line/menu. Did the notch appear on the iphone because apple was not able to have their hardware accommodate a full screen & so came up with idea the notch is a "feature"? |
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05-26-2019, 05:27 PM | #39 |
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And some of us are. If you read PDFs, which tend to be formatted for an A4 or Letter page, 4:3 is a much better fit to the shape of the page than a 16:9 screen is. I read a lot of PDFs on my iPad.
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05-26-2019, 05:39 PM | #40 |
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have all the kindles been a 4:3-ish screen? And to be honest, with reflowable text like what you find in almost all epubs or mobis, I don't find it to really matter much.
EDIT: By kindle I mean the eink readers, not the Android tablets currently known as Fire, formerly known as Kindle Fire |
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Also, I think sony had a model a bit narrower than 4:3 Last edited by j.p.s; 05-26-2019 at 05:55 PM. Reason: Added sony |
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05-27-2019, 10:59 AM | #43 | |
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2) The number of vertical pixels had to be a multiple of 4 due to limits of the Motorola 6845 it was based on. Yes, old fogey here What do I win? |
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A nap.
I vaguely remember the Hercules cards. The one I remember, but not a graphics card, is the Sound Blaster audio cards. What a nuisance it was back then installing all those cards. You had to worry about having enough slots. |
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