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Old 07-21-2016, 01:58 PM   #28141
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The info you found on naming was true for earlier versions of Android. Since the last android update my extSD is called 0000-0000
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:19 PM   #28142
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I wanted to try out VLC mediaplayer on my tablet. I have various media on the external SD card and in VLC you have to enter the path to external cards manually. After Googling I found the path and that most cards are called a variation of SD Card or External Storage. I couldn't get it right, so I downloaded an app to find out the path and found out my Galaxy Tab calls the external SD card "0123-4567". That just isn't logical.
Isn't it in also in "/mnt/sdcard/" ?

Most older Android devices came with an SD-card by default because of limited storage (in the time a phone only had 256 MB for apps), and the mount point normally was "/mnt/sdcard". To maintain compatibility with older applications, newer Android versions should still provide this mount point (even if there isn't an SD-card, in which it points to internal storage), but it could be that Samsung dropped it.

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The info you found on naming was true for earlier versions of Android. Since the last android update my extSD is called 0000-0000
So it is actually the official builds of stock Android that is are dropping "/mnt/sdcard" ? Sounds like they are now completely phasing out SD-cards then.

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Old 07-21-2016, 09:18 PM   #28143
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Isn't it in also in "/mnt/sdcard/" ?

Most older Android devices came with an SD-card by default because of limited storage (in the time a phone only had 256 MB for apps), and the mount point normally was "/mnt/sdcard". To maintain compatibility with older applications, newer Android versions should still provide this mount point (even if there isn't an SD-card, in which it points to internal storage), but it could be that Samsung dropped it.
I doubt it. SDcard on Android is an internal card carved out of device flash that appears and gets mounted as a drive. External cards are also mounted as drives, but paths may differ,

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So it is actually the official builds of stock Android that is are dropping "/mnt/sdcard" ? Sounds like they are now completely phasing out SD-cards then.
I don't believe so, and see no reason they would need to.

My suspicion is that Rumpelteazer has videos she wants to watch with VLC on an external card. That's no surprise, as the internal SD card carved out of flash won't be all that large. (On my current tablet, it's 2GB. On the older model from the same vendor it replaced, it was 1GB. Video would use either up in a heartbeat.)

Here, the external card mounts as /mnt/extsd, and videos are in /mnt/extsd/Videos. VLC could play them fine once I had the location plugged into its configuration.
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Old 07-22-2016, 02:08 AM   #28144
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Yes, I was messing around with VLC player. I normally use MX Player, but it looks like they removed some audio codecs due to licencing issues. A while back I had recorded a bunch of documentaries and converted them so I could view them on my tablet. In MX I didn't get any sound, reconverting them on my laptop isn't an option (too slow) so I downloaded VLC.

I must say I prefer MX Player over VLC, it has more options and features.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:38 AM   #28145
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I doubt it. SDcard on Android is an internal card carved out of device flash that appears and gets mounted as a drive. External cards are also mounted as drives, but paths may differ,


I don't believe so, and see no reason they would need to.

My suspicion is that Rumpelteazer has videos she wants to watch with VLC on an external card. That's no surprise, as the internal SD card carved out of flash won't be all that large. (On my current tablet, it's 2GB. On the older model from the same vendor it replaced, it was 1GB. Video would use either up in a heartbeat.)

Here, the external card mounts as /mnt/extsd, and videos are in /mnt/extsd/Videos. VLC could play them fine once I had the location plugged into its configuration.
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That was the point: most older phones only 256 MB of flash or so, and thus they also had an SD-card, mounted under "/mnt/sdcard". Newer phones have much bigger flash available, and "mnt/sdcard" now just points to that flash storage, just to have the mount available to maintain compatibility. At least on my Android phone, there is no separate memory for this mount.
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:13 AM   #28146
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That was the point: most older phones only 256 MB of flash or so, and thus they also had an SD-card, mounted under "/mnt/sdcard". Newer phones have much bigger flash available, and "mnt/sdcard" now just points to that flash storage, just to have the mount available to maintain compatibility. At least on my Android phone, there is no separate memory for this mount.
I think we're talking past each other. How many of those old phones with 256MB flash had a slot for an external card? SDcard was still carved out of device flash, but even more minimal. I do not believe that has changed in newer devices. Changes have more to do with how much flash is installed.

On my tablets. the use for the sdcard area was storage of data, and as a place where some apps could be partially installed. Whether they could be installed that way depended on the way the app was built, and not all could.

My original tablet had 4MB flash, of which 787MB was app storage where apps got installed, and 1GB was sdcard, where some apps could be partially moved. That got exhausted very quickly just adding the desired Google apps.

The solution involved rooting the tablet, and the use of the external microSD card. MicroSD cards come formatted as FAT32, but apps can't be installed on and run from it because FAT32 has no place to store the metadata Linux needs for running apps. I put the card in an adapter and repartitioned it from my desktop to carve out a 2GB slice formatted as Linux ext4, then reinserted it in the tablet and rebooted. Linux saw it had another filesystem and mounted it. From there, I could use a freeware app called Link2SD. Link2SD let me install an app from the Play Store, then moveit from the default location to the external card, and place a symlink in the root filesystem pointing to it. Creating that symlink in the root filesystem required a rooted device, so the technique won't work if you aren't rooted.

It worked fine, and I then had 2 3/4+ GB of app storage, and could install what I wanted.

The current tablet has 8GB flash, with 2GB for app storage and 2GB allocated as sdcard, so I haven't had to do that yet (though the device is rooted for other reasons.)
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:25 PM   #28147
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Why is everyone cranky today? Is it National Cranky Day? My sister, my mom, the hospital, Maisy, Hubby.... me.

Mom calls me very early this morning upset that she can't get in touch with my sister. My sister left the hospital yesterday morning to go home and get some sleep. Mom doesn't like to be by herself so she has been very difficult to the nurses. They got the hospital social worker involved who keeps calling.

My sister is playing games. She lied to me twice. She told me she talked to my mom yesterday. So when mom called me crying about not being able to reach Sis. I thought she was loopy from the meds and spent five minutes trying to make her remember the phone call. Mom swore she never heard from my sister and now I feel bad for believing my sister and not my mom.

Now my sister is at her doctor's appointment way up in downtown St Louis. The social worker sounds frazzled. They plan to put mom in rehabilitation because she refuses to even try to lift herself. Mom is becoming aggressive due to that.

I told them something is wrong. I tried talking to mom like they asked she is not listening. I and hubby think it's because her sugar is probably out of wack or because they have her on something that is causing a side effect of odd behavior. She is difficult but never this bad. My sister isn't helping by staying away and not getting a doctor to exam the behavior. She is the caretaker she has the say-so not me.

I could go down there if I had a way. Hubby's working. No one else in the family cares.

On top of that Maisy has been very cranky today.


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