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Old 04-30-2011, 03:32 PM   #16
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:40 PM   #17
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Ahhh... Here's a good example I just found... 99 cents
A Princess of Mars
Why would you pay for it when you can download the entire "Barsoom Omnibus" free right here at MR?
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:49 PM   #18
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I believe Feedbooks has a lot of Murray Leinster's work available free - and I would think that would meet your requirements.
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:53 PM   #19
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Ahhh... Here's a good example I just found... 99 cents
A Princess of Mars
There are several omnibus volumes of Edgar Rice Burroughs's works here in the MR library for free.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:14 PM   #20
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I would think that most of the YA books (they used to call them "Juvenals") from the '50s would fit well. What agenda they typically had was pretty much the same as the '50s Superman's tagline, "Truth, Freedom, and the American Way". Something like Murray Leinster's "Space Tug" (http://www.manybooks.net/titles/lein...871918719.html).
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Why would you pay for it when you can download the entire "Barsoom Omnibus" free right here at MR?
Because I feel bad reading for free and I want to support Amazon????

or perhaps because I missed Burroughs somehow in the libs... (Guess I'd better peruse the libs again!)

Thanks for the heads-ups.
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:24 PM   #22
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You know, it occurs to me that for the second time today James White's Sector General books would be a fitting recommendation. Google for Sector General epub and-- well-- you'll find places to get them all for free, but if you are inclined to buy a few, here's a set of three books for ten bucks:

http://www.ebooks.com/ebooks/book_di...asp?IID=597371
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You know, it occurs to me that for the second time today James White's Sector General books would be a fitting recommendation. Google for Sector General epub and-- well-- you'll find places to get them all for free, but if you are inclined to buy a few, here's a set of three books for ten bucks:

http://www.ebooks.com/ebooks/book_di...asp?IID=597371
I just googled "Sector General epub" and was returned this thread as 4th entry - gotta love it...

(thanks for the suggestion - obviously am checking it out)
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:54 PM   #25
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I don't recall where I found it but I picked up Space Prison for free. Typical 50's long on revenge short on actual character building. Kind of fun but really limited. It's hard to flesh out a character when you take away the dirty parts of being human.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:14 PM   #26
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I'm having trouble with the premise of the OP. The whole POINT of science Fiction and Fantasy (Speculative fiction in general) is to free us from what is 'possible' and what is 'approved' so we can consider the impossible and the unapproved. To take an idea and extend the trend it represents to its ultimate conclusion regardless of how comfortable it makes us.

To me, it sounds as if the OP wants some stories of substance with ray-guns and spaceships, but no Amazon women wearing armored Lingerie.

I consider myself a Christian and a conservative so I think I understand how hard it is to remain true to your faith and beliefs in this culture. But I think the OP is asking for the impossible. Ultimately, all beliefs must be tested repeatedly. And Science Fiction is good for that.
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I'm having trouble with the premise of the OP. The whole POINT of science Fiction and Fantasy (Speculative fiction in general) is to free us from what is 'possible' and what is 'approved' so we can consider the impossible and the unapproved. To take an idea and extend the trend it represents to its ultimate conclusion regardless of how comfortable it makes us.

To me, it sounds as if the OP wants some stories of substance with ray-guns and spaceships, but no Amazon women wearing armored Lingerie.

I consider myself a Christian and a conservative so I think I understand how hard it is to remain true to your faith and beliefs in this culture. But I think the OP is asking for the impossible. Ultimately, all beliefs must be tested repeatedly. And Science Fiction is good for that.
I'm looking for suggestions, not an analysis of my "premise." Many fine suggestions have been given.. Thanks to those who did.
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I'm not looking for Christian SF. Just fun reads like (using Heinlein for example) "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress," "Starship Troopers", "Glory Road", "Have Spaceship, Will Travel" etc. There may have been some suggestive dialog at times but nothing like you read today!
When I read your initial request, the first thing I thought was "Wow, I hope he stayed FAR away from Heinlein!" Everything you listed as "don'ts" are spot-on Heinlein, so it's hilarious that you listed him as an example of what you're looking for. But that also makes it confusing and difficult to recommend anything because what you want doesn't match up to what you've asked for. But if you've enjoyed Heinlein in the past, it sounds like you may like Heinlein's juvee novels.

(As an aside, I'm trying Have Spacesuit, Will Travel right now, and I have to admit that I find the dialog... unbelievable. "Gee golly whiz! That guy's scary!" Ack. People don't talk like that.)

I'd also recommend pretty much anything by Asimov as 1950s sci-fi that's good clean fun. I can't promise no agenda, as that is rather the point of speculative fiction. Start with the Foundation series and move on from there.

And come to think of it, Mike Resnick has some good stories out there, specifically the Penelope Bailey series.

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Ooo! And Clarke! Rendezvous with Rama, Childhood's End, 2001.

You should check out the Science Fiction Hall of Fame reading lists for Space Opera and Golden Age of SF. I think you'd find a lot you like there.

Ender's Game (probably the whole series) by Card

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