07-09-2012, 07:29 PM | #91 |
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Just started the first book after seeing the series on tv, I have noticed that so far (I'm a quarter of the way through) it's much like the tv series which is ok by me as there is a lot of history and lots of characters to remember and seeing the 1st series has helped put faces to names, but after reading this thread it seems that the books and tv move away from each other so I was wondering if anyone knew of any good sites where the history and family trees could be found (for the books not the tv series.)
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Every volume in the series includes an appendix that lists family trees of all the noble houses. It's actually an indented outline rather than a tree diagram, but the information is there. Also, a short description of each house.
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NNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo I am half way through book 5. I feel desperation setting in.
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07-13-2012, 02:53 PM | #96 |
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I've finished reading A Game of Thrones a few days ago. Not really that impressed to be honest.Above the things I already mentioned, there is one more thing that bothered me: Ned Stark.
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I am now almost halfway through A Clash of Kings and this one seems a lot better. I am glad to see more of Arya and Snow as well as The Imp. Sure Catelyn and Sansa are still annoying and should be impaled in every chapter but at least their presence in the book is not so big anymore. One major complaint however is that I finished 36% of the book (so my Kindle says) and Daenerys was only mentioned once. It seems like the author forgot about her all of a sudden... Regardless, I like this one more than the first book. I suppose the first book served as an introduction to the characters and world, though it was the longest I have ever read |
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I remember the first time I read these books. I thought, "Oh my God! There's a massive void in the story's center. WTF!" Have no fear: other characters are waiting in the wings, ready to take center stage. They'll be fully developed and (eventually) appear to be essential and irreplacable. Muahahaha. They're not. Anyone can be killed, just like real life, and the world moves on without them. |
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I'm not a fan of the way the series has developed (or more like not developed), but I have no problem with the killing of characters... sometimes seemingly willy-nilly. I usually have more of a problem with the authors who are too timid to kill more of their creations, actually. People are fragile. Even important ones can die. Quietly even. Having them all either survive anything or die gloriously is a bit predictable and boring to me.
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I agree that in real life, many deaths, are quiet, unspectacular and even pointless. The way Martin kills off even important characters make the books more powerful forme, but of course that is just my humble opinion.
I have read the first three books in sequence years ago, but after reading about how horrible and pointless A Feast for Crows was in many people's opinions, I stopped and left on the shelves for six long years before finally picking it up this year. It took me at least a hundred pages to get hooked again, but then I couldn't stop reading. I am one of those weird persons who ended up liking it in the end, I even developed a grudging respect for Jaime Lannister. A Dance With Dragons had all my favorite characters in it, so I have no complaints about it, and I think it did advance the plot. |
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Herrummph......
[QUOTE=DiapDealer;2149177]I'm not a fan of the way the series has developed (or more like not developed), but I have no problem with the killing of characters... sometimes seemingly willy-nilly. I usually have more of a problem with the authors................/QUOTE] [selectively truncated ]
Well, quite, I don't agree with killing authors either ..... |
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Well just finished the first book am about a quarter of the way through the second book and finding it a little harder going as there is so many more people to remember (had to print out the maps and family trees.) but the story is still holding me.
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Wasn't all that impressed overall.
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I have been loving the series so far and plan to reread it before the next book in the series is published. I'm desperately trying to find another series that will hook me in as much as A Song of Ice and Fire, but I haven't had any luck.
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