Fire

Gene R · 11-20-2014, 10:41 PM

I use a Kindle Fire as an eBook reader using Overdrive. I download books directly to the Fire. Satisfactorily.

There are currently 5 books on the Fire. Have not been able to locate any of their titles either in the Books or Docs folders. There are files there but their name's are unrecognizable, being a long alphanumeric string in Books or some other not recognized file names in Docs. And further the Fire interface shows files that I can`t find in the Docs folder. And the Carousel show books for which I cannot find files. Ah the joys of proprietary formatting. Interesting as all this may be, it`s not my question

With time I've begun to acquire books from different sources. And Calibre seems a good way to manage this growing collection. However Calibre dosn`t see the books on the Fire that Overdrive does. Anyone have an explanation and fix.

BetterRed · 11-20-2014, 11:58 PM

@Gene R - are you aware of this plug-in ==>> [GUI Plugin] Overdrive Link (← click)

I don't use it, so I don't know whether it is a solution for your particular problem.

Plugins are a significant feature of calibre, here's a list thereof ==>> Calibre - Index of plugins

Welcome to MobileRead

BR

Gene R · 11-22-2014, 01:43 PM

Thanks. I'll follow that link

eschwartz · 12-01-2014, 06:55 PM

calibre cannot and will not see books located in obfuscated app storage, as the OverDrive app does.
There is no fix, and really, there needn't be, not for library books.

I would suggest using another ereader app, which stores books in standard locations. Moon+ and Mantano are both popular here.

You may also wish to look at Calibre Companion, which does a phenomenal job integrating Android devices with calibre, exposing all of calibre's metadata, custom columns, and more, on your tablet. The developer is a longtime MR member and calibre code contributor, and very responsive to input.

Gene R · 12-09-2014, 08:10 PM

The problem is Fire and Amazon file structure design.

Calibre Companion would be helpfull except it claims not to work with Fire. Admittedly I have not tried to load it anyway

Does anyone have a way to have Fire (initial version) work with Calibre?

eschwartz · 12-09-2014, 09:01 PM

Hmm, well, a lot of people have had success downloading CC on one Android device (from the Amazon appstore) then backing it up and sideloading it to the Fire. Once it is on the device, all that matters is that CC is locked with Amazon's appstore encryption.

The only reason CC "doesn't work" with the Fire tablets, is because Amazon doesn't want competition for the Kindle builtin app.

ludovicus · 12-09-2014, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

The only reason CC "doesn't work" with the Fire tablets, is because Amazon doesn't want competition for the Kindle builtin app.

I was able to purchase, and regularly use CC on my Fire HD6. Lately I've noticed that a lot of apps in the Amazon Appstore are incompatible with the older tablets...

Gene, are the books that you cannot find on your Fire, downloaded using the Overdrive app?

If that's the problem, they are probably in the Overdrive app. When you borrow a book using Overdrive, instead of downloading the book, you can have it sent to a device registered to your Amazon account. The book will appear in the carousel, and you can read the book on your Fire using the Kindle app instead.

Hope this helps!

eschwartz · 12-09-2014, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludovicus

When you borrow a book using Overdrive, instead of downloading the book, you can have it sent to a device registered to your Amazon account. The book will appear in the carousel, and you can read the book on your Fire using the Kindle app instead.

Hope this helps!

The OP's profile states he lives in "Canada". So: no!

OverDrive does not offer Kindle checkout outside the US.

ludovicus · 12-10-2014, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

The OP's profile states he lives in "Canada". So: no!

OverDrive does not offer Kindle checkout outside the US.

I did not know.

is right! That sucks!

Gene R · 12-13-2014, 01:13 PM

The "obfuscation" of file design is frustrating for someone of my generation.

I have a similar problem with a Magellan GPS. Bought a second one because it came with life-time map updates Have discovered that I can't transfer the Address files from the older to the newer one. I can see the several files but not their content so don't know where the address files are I searched the machine for a known street name and had no hits. Don't want to spend more time on it since it will sufice to add addressees as needed.

Increasingly the designer/manufactureres are assuming that a user will not want to "lift the hood". After all, how many drivers know how to do more than change the oil on their car.

Gene R · 12-13-2014, 01:17 PM

Over drive is available in Canada. The local Libraries, in this province,B.C., offer it

Initialy the local Library said thqt it could not be done. But they now have it

BetterRed · 12-13-2014, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene R

After all, how many drivers know how to do more than change the oil on their car.

Not even that, because to do so they'd need to know how to drain the swamp sump

BR

Barbara1955 · 12-13-2014, 04:50 PM

I have OverDrive on my 2012 Fire HD Works fine.

OP how about posting in the Amazon Fire Forum... Bet you get the help you need there.

eschwartz · 12-13-2014, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene R

Over drive is available in Canada. The local Libraries, in this province,B.C., offer it

Initialy the local Library said thqt it could not be done. But they now have it

Yeah, but only for EPUB right?

Anyway, have you tried Mantano or Moon+ for non-library books?

JSWolf · 12-13-2014, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene R

The "obfuscation" of file design is frustrating for someone of my generation.

I have a similar problem with a Magellan GPS. Bought a second one because it came with life-time map updates Have discovered that I can't transfer the Address files from the older to the newer one. I can see the several files but not their content so don't know where the address files are I searched the machine for a known street name and had no hits. Don't want to spend more time on it since it will sufice to add addressees as needed.

Increasingly the designer/manufactureres are assuming that a user will not want to "lift the hood". After all, how many drivers know how to do more than change the oil on their car.

Should have gone with Garmin. Their software will allow you to transfer your saved address from one device to another.

11-20-2014, 10:41 PM	#1
Gene R Gene R Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada Device: Kimdle Fire	Fire I use a Kindle Fire as an eBook reader using Overdrive. I download books directly to the Fire. Satisfactorily. There are currently 5 books on the Fire. Have not been able to locate any of their titles either in the Books or Docs folders. There are files there but their name's are unrecognizable, being a long alphanumeric string in Books or some other not recognized file names in Docs. And further the Fire interface shows files that I can`t find in the Docs folder. And the Carousel show books for which I cannot find files. Ah the joys of proprietary formatting. Interesting as all this may be, it`s not my question With time I've begun to acquire books from different sources. And Calibre seems a good way to manage this growing collection. However Calibre dosn`t see the books on the Fire that Overdrive does. Anyone have an explanation and fix.

12-09-2014, 08:10 PM	#5
Gene R Gene R Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada Device: Kimdle Fire	Fire The problem is Fire and Amazon file structure design. Calibre Companion would be helpfull except it claims not to work with Fire. Admittedly I have not tried to load it anyway Does anyone have a way to have Fire (initial version) work with Calibre?

12-13-2014, 01:13 PM	#10
Gene R Gene R Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada Device: Kimdle Fire	Kindle Fire in Canada The "obfuscation" of file design is frustrating for someone of my generation. I have a similar problem with a Magellan GPS. Bought a second one because it came with life-time map updates Have discovered that I can't transfer the Address files from the older to the newer one. I can see the several files but not their content so don't know where the address files are I searched the machine for a known street name and had no hits. Don't want to spend more time on it since it will sufice to add addressees as needed. Increasingly the designer/manufactureres are assuming that a user will not want to "lift the hood". After all, how many drivers know how to do more than change the oil on their car.

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11-20-2014, 11:58 PM	#2
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,565 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Gene R - are you aware of this plug-in ==>> [GUI Plugin] Overdrive Link (← click) I don't use it, so I don't know whether it is a solution for your particular problem. Plugins are a significant feature of calibre, here's a list thereof ==>> Calibre - Index of plugins Welcome to MobileRead BR

11-22-2014, 01:43 PM	#3
Gene R Gene R Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada Device: Kimdle Fire	Thanks. I'll follow that link

12-01-2014, 06:55 PM	#4
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	calibre cannot and will not see books located in obfuscated app storage, as the OverDrive app does. There is no fix, and really, there needn't be, not for library books. I would suggest using another ereader app, which stores books in standard locations. Moon+ and Mantano are both popular here. You may also wish to look at Calibre Companion, which does a phenomenal job integrating Android devices with calibre, exposing all of calibre's metadata, custom columns, and more, on your tablet. The developer is a longtime MR member and calibre code contributor, and very responsive to input.

12-09-2014, 09:01 PM	#6
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Hmm, well, a lot of people have had success downloading CC on one Android device (from the Amazon appstore) then backing it up and sideloading it to the Fire. Once it is on the device, all that matters is that CC is locked with Amazon's appstore encryption. The only reason CC "doesn't work" with the Fire tablets, is because Amazon doesn't want competition for the Kindle builtin app.

12-13-2014, 01:17 PM	#11
Gene R Gene R Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Canada Device: Kimdle Fire	Over drive is available in Canada. The local Libraries, in this province,B.C., offer it Initialy the local Library said thqt it could not be done. But they now have it

12-13-2014, 04:50 PM	#13
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,454 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	I have OverDrive on my 2012 Fire HD Works fine. OP how about posting in the Amazon Fire Forum... Bet you get the help you need there.