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Old 10-27-2013, 03:55 PM   #31
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The main person I'd be harming had I not gone to see this film would be me, given that it's something I've been looking forward to for a long time, and it strikes me as a bit silly to deprive myself of a pleasure simply because the author of the book that it's based on has expressed views that I don't agree with. So no, it never crossed my mind not to see it. Doing so would be depriving myself of a pleasant evening out, and is extremely unlikely to change Mr Card's opinions of gay marriage.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:11 PM   #32
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The main person I'd be harming had I not gone to see this film would be me, given that it's something I've been looking forward to for a long time, and it strikes me as a bit silly to deprive myself of a pleasure simply because the author of the book that it's based on has expressed views that I don't agree with. So no, it never crossed my mind not to see it. Doing so would be depriving myself of a pleasant evening out, and is extremely unlikely to change Mr Card's opinions of gay marriage.
My comment was just on the characterization as a violation of Card's “free speech.” Really freedom of speech does not cover more than saying that the government should not suppress speech and should protect a person's rights to say what they wish without intimidation. That would not include refusing to support a person that you disagree with financially.

If Ender's Game did come to my town I'd probably go see it. I'm not a big enough fan of SciFi by Orson Scott Card or not that it would be a must see for me, but we get few enough films here that are not for the age 16 and under crowd. Card is not a politician, is probably not well known outside of SciFi circles, and has little power to influence laws or public policy. Yeah I disagree with his views on gay rights, most of his political views, and that Mormonism is just strange, but if the film is entertaining none of that would matter to me.

So I'm glad you enjoyed the film. Other than suggesting that “It's a film that really benefits from the "big screen" experience” you haven't really commented on what would draw me into see an adaption of a SciFi novel I've already read. That is seeing hard to imagine technology brought to life.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:17 PM   #33
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I remember reading a comment by Card that Ender's Game would be an impossible film to make because most of the story takes place inside Ender's head. I'll probably go see the movie for that reason alone.

Was he involved in the movie-making process at all, does anyone know?
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:44 PM   #35
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The "battle school" scenes are well done, I think. It's a big space station in Earth orbit, with two rotating rings to provide artificial gravity for the living quarters, and an enormous non-rotating sphere between them for the zero-g battle room. Much as I pictured from the book. And as you would expect these days, the zero-g battles themselves are convincingly portrayed.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:54 PM   #36
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Yeah I disagree with his views on gay rights, most of his political views, and that Mormonism is just strange, but if the film is entertaining none of that would matter to me.
It's not his views or opinions that matter to me so much, as his vigorous, vicious activism.
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I find Card's political views just as abhorrent as Rowling's. That said, I wouldn't let either of their views get in the way of reading their books or watching their films.
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I find Card's political views just as abhorrent as Rowling's. That said, I wouldn't let either of their views get in the way of reading their books or watching their films.
I wasn't aware that Ms. Rowling had expressed any political views.
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I wasn't aware that Ms. Rowling had expressed any political views.
She's strongly in favour of the welfare state, and of the rich paying taxes.

"I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr. Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty check. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism."
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She's strongly in favour of the welfare state, and of the rich paying taxes.

"I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr. Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty check. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism."
That doesn't seem terribly controversial to me. She's saying that the state helped her out when she was down on her luck, and now she's doing well, it's her turn to pay it back. Good on her. How anyone could find that "abhorrent" I find a little puzzling.
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That doesn't seem terribly controversial to me. She's saying that the state helped her out when she was down on her luck, and now she's doing well, it's her turn to pay it back. Good on her. How anyone could find that "abhorrent" I find a little puzzling.
I fear we are straying into Politics, and so should not continue this strand of the thread here.
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Agreed.
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Still waiting for feedback on the movie! 6,9/10 on Imdb.com so far, but from only 1600 votes, which doesn't seem promising (Movies are always rated higher in the beginning, when the die hard fans watch it).

HarryT, since you seem to be the only one who have seen it, is it a standard teenage movie?
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HarryT, since you seem to be the only one who have seen it, is it a standard teenage movie?
No, I wouldn't say it is. It's pretty "dark" (just like the book is), with Colonel Graff (the Battle School commander, played by Harrison Ford) doing whatever is necessary to make Ender into what he needs him to be. It doesn't pull any punches.

I'm not at all surprised that it doesn't score terribly highly on a film review site; it's not a "populist" film by any means, and probably won't appeal to non-SF fans.
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I fear we are straying into Politics, and so should not continue this strand of the thread here.
But good to keep the opportunity of reading the relevant posts to see the excellent rebuttal of the original ..... slur? ......... if that's not too "un-Parliamentary" .
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