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Old 07-03-2012, 07:40 AM   #31
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With human nature.
Humans are very difficult to interface with and to presume they will follow any specific course of action is prone to failure.
Yeah, like the multiple times I had to ask people following the "simple debricking method" WHY they chose to ERASE ENTIRE MMC in fastboot, when the instructions just said to flash mmcblk0p2_ssh.img...

After all, a link or button that has "DO NOT PRESS!" on its label is sure to collect its fair share of presses anyway, so why shouldn't a "DO NOT ERASE YOUR MMC" attract similar attention?

And back in the day, our (university sponsored) computer hacking club had a sign on the wall that said "No system can be completely foolproof -- fools are so darned ingenious!".
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:49 AM   #32
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Yeah, like the multiple times I had two ask people following the "simple debricking method" WHY they chose to ERASE ENTIRE MMC in fastboot, when the instructions just said to flash mmcblk0p2_ssh.img...

After all, a link or button that has "DO NOT PRESS!" on its label is sure to collect its fair share of presses anyway, so why shouldn't a "DO NOT ERASE YOUR MMC" attract similar attention?

And back in the day, our (university sponsored) computer hacking club had a sign on the wall that said "No system can be completely foolproof -- fools are so darned ingenious!".
If Hawhill ever tested that "erase mmc" selection in the ATK, he isn't admitting it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:10 AM   #33
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If Hawhill ever tested that "erase mmc" selection in the ATK, he isn't admitting it.
At least with ATK it is easier to flash the MMC after erasing it, than it is to flash it with fastboot after erasing the mmc (which contains uboot bist and fastboot support).

How do you flash with fastboot when the kindle no longer contains fastboot protocol in its mmc? It used to be "serial port" time then, but now we have better ways.

Time to get MfgTool profiles up to where Advanced Tookit is heading.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:19 AM   #34
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How do you flash with fastboot when the kindle no longer contains fastboot protocol in its mmc? It used to be "serial port" time then, but now we have better ways.
I noticed the ATK picture showed a "serial port" option.
Maybe Hawhill tried that one and just never mentioned it.

A little bit off the K5 BotNet Web Installer topic, but that subject seems to be exhausted anyway.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:23 AM   #35
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Can you add some fonts for fonthack? Atleast some essentials like Ubuntu?
I've looked at the fonthack, but I can't add that package to site. It unfortunately requires additional steps to be made, so newbies would become confused, if it didn't work after installation. Fonts are no problem, but I think fonts alone only add another confusion (somebody could think this is all required for the font change. But if you really want it there, send me a PM and I'll add them.

OT: I tried to update the wiki page about KT hacking, but: "The database has been automatically locked while the slave database servers catch up to the master". Is this normal?
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:30 AM   #36
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Only during maintaince activities. Try again in a few hours (its a big database here).
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:31 AM   #37
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I've looked at the fonthack, but I can't add that package to site. It unfortunately requires additional steps to be made, so newbies would become confused, if it didn't work after installation. Fonts are no problem, but I think fonts alone only add another confusion (somebody could think this is all required for the font change. But if you really want it there, send me a PM and I'll add them.
OT: I tried to update the wiki page about KT hacking, but: "The database has been automatically locked while the slave database servers catch up to the master". Is this normal?
Hmm... That's strange
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:01 PM   #38
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To what was discussed above: Nah, I didn't try out neither Erase (because I had no use for it yet) nor a serial connection on my K3. In fact, I never even opened it.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:12 AM   #39
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To what was discussed above: Nah, I didn't try out neither Erase (because I had no use for it yet) nor a serial connection on my K3. In fact, I never even opened it.
Opening a K3 is for people too lazy to make a serial port plug to fit into the left bottom slot.
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Before this attempt my Kindle with fw 5.1.0 was already jailbroken. I tried to use this page to uninstall the jailbreak, and it seem to work. however when I tried to install usbnetwork after this uninstallation it also worked! it seems that uninstallation of jailbreak doesn't work correctly.
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Before this attempt my Kindle with fw 5.1.0 was already jailbroken. I tried to use this page to uninstall the jailbreak, and it seem to work. however when I tried to install usbnetwork after this uninstallation it also worked! it seems that uninstallation of jailbreak doesn't work correctly.
I tried it now, the unjailbreak package doesn't work. I've took it from https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kind..._the_jailbreak. I will change the method used to unjailbreak.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:59 AM   #42
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:13 AM   #43
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I will change the method used to unjailbreak.
Uninstallation of other packages are missing also.

Just a thought: You can use seperate pages(tabs) for installs and uninstalls .
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Uninstallation of other packages are missing also.

Just a thought: You can use seperate pages(tabs) for installs and uninstalls .
This is a good idea! I'll add it when I am back at home.
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Thanks, but I've already repaired it using another method.
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Old 07-08-2012, 06:24 AM   #45
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Thanks, but I've already repaired it using another method.
What method? Please post a link, to help others reading this thread. I find it incredibly frustrating when google takes me to a site that describes EXACTLY my problem, and the thread ends with "I fixed it" with no information that helps me fix the same problem.

Let's not do that to somebody who finds your "I fixed it" post. Thanks...
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