05-10-2012, 02:28 PM | #16 |
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True! And I guess that kind of stories I want to read a first person view from just one person isn't enough. I want to know what goes on inside more than one person's head. Having said that, it's absolutely not a something in itself that would make me put down a book!
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05-10-2012, 02:30 PM | #17 |
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Wait, since when do they write -that?- I'll admit it's not common that I seek out romance, I usually prefer it as a side-plot- but even then, I've found maybe one or two books, ever, with romance in them where the main char was male.
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Jim Butcher will not move away from the first person perspective for this series. It is how he writes.
To be frank, the series as a whole is getting boring. Dresden encounters a problem, he gets some help, he is opposed by others, he learns new stuff, he becomes strong, he takes out the bad thing. Next book, same thing except a different enemy and things get more desperate. It has become far to formulaic and the first person perspective is only one of the problems, for me, with the series. Personally, I wish that Butcher would wrap the series up and start something new. Codex Alera was very good and did not use the first person perspective. You got to know all of the characters better and he finished the series in 6 books. |
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I guess it depends on your flavor lol. I enjoy reading very much. 1st person doesn't bother me too much, but 3rd person will always be king. I wanna more 2nd person writing though.. just for fun
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It depends on the book, but I prefer third person.
What really drives me up the wall, however, is present tense. I understand authors think it gives the story a feeling of immediacy, that the reader will feel the story is happening right now, but it's such an uncommon method of storytelling in English (I've been told it's the norm in other languages) that I find it incredibly distracting. Combine first person with present tense and you have a book that is completely unreadable for me; e.g. The Hunger Games. edit: No offense intended to those who liked The Hunger Games. |
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I loved the Hunger Games...
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I don't care about first person or third person. I do care that authors pay attention to POV in third person, though (assuming there's not an omniscient narrator). At least in first person, POV is consistent! |
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I got bored with the Dresden books around book 7.
Normally, I hate first person (and first person present tense even more so) with a white-hot fiery passion. I just can't get into the books, because "I" *didn't* do whatever... Oddly, I can listen to books in first person better than I can read them, because it's like being told something by someone I'm listening to - guess I process reading and listening differently. The only real exception to disliking first person are the John Ceepak books, by Chris Grabenstein, read by Jeff Woodman. Those are delightful. |
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If the book interests me, I'll read it, if it grabs me I'm quite happy to devour it... Person or no person. If you asked me what person the last 6 books I read were in, I wouldn't have a clue - until now when I've started thinking....but I've now stopped and don't care. So there. Far as I'm concerned, you're daft worrying about it |
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I find first-person to be more immediate, and more involving. I seem to be able to get through first-person books faster.
I don't quite understand why people find it hard to identify with a character different to them - it's not you, it's that character telling you their story. The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss starts out third-person, goes into first when the main character starts telling his story, and becomes a much better book. No Highway by Nevil Shute is first-person, but the best, most intense, section, is about other characters, in third-person (and it doesn't really make much sense for the narrator to know so much about them, but never mind). I don't have a particular preference, though. Whatever serves the story. I'd guess the Dresden books are in first-person because the that's the hard-boiled detective trope, from Chandler and the rest. I have a couple of colleagues who are big Dresden fans, but I didn't much like the first one and never bothered with any more. |
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Talking about changing POV, when I was about 12 years old I wrote a story from a first person perspective about myself and a few kids marooned on an island. In the end we all died, and the final scene was a description from a third person POV of the waves rolling up a desolate beach.
The teacher told me then that I couldn't do that, which has always stuck with me. I'd like to take some of the modern authors who do just that to her now and ask her to explain to them that they're all wrong too... |
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I think first person, present tense sounds like two air-headed teenagers at the mall. "So, then my I go, 'Do you really think I'm going to let you treat me like that?!' And he goes, 'Babe, what you see is what you get.' And I go,".... Gak. I have finished exactly one book written in that tense. Every other one I've picked up in that tense gets put right back down. To the OP's question, I am fine on first person, past tense. Sometimes I think it's easier to show a flawed character using that tense. It seems somehow deception that the narrator in a third person story doesn't tell me critical things to the story, just to continue some artificial tension. With first person, it can become obvious that the character doesn't see his/her own flaws, or someone else's. |
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