06-23-2010, 05:50 AM | #31 | |
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06-23-2010, 06:03 AM | #32 | |
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The disagreement came about when dmaul said he won't settle for anything less than life+ and I won't accept a non determinate period or any period longer than the average human life expectancy. Are you really planning to get on my case for auguring that an effectively perpetual monopoly that isn't even paid for is a problem? |
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06-23-2010, 07:19 AM | #33 | |
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Sorry for the confusion. Cheers, PKFFW |
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06-23-2010, 07:25 AM | #34 | |
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06-23-2010, 07:41 AM | #35 | |
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This sort of use would fall under the protection of Trademarks, which are very different to copyright and already have no term limitation. |
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06-24-2010, 11:39 AM | #36 |
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OK, a few things to point out here.
This ruling is not about copyright holders clawing back works that properly and legitimately entered PD. The ruling asserts that certain foreign works were improperly classified as PD, due to the foreign nation failing to follow its agreements to respect the originating nation's copyright laws per the Berne Convention or other mitigating circumstances (e.g. errors in paperwork). §514 of the Uruguay Round Agreements Act moves to restore those copyrights and sets up specific limits on protections for those who inadvertently used the works while they were misclassified as PD. That's why the ruling explicitly states: "Section 514 does not restore copyrights in foreign works that entered the public domain through the expiration of the term of protection." (p 6) It's only when the nation failed to properly enforce copyright protection in harmony with the agreements it signed that protection resumes. The Techdirt article is horrendously biased; it's short on legal reasoning and long on hysteria and knee-jerk reactions. For a more even-handed summary: http://blogs.forbes.com/docket/2010/...from-the-dead/ |
06-24-2010, 01:39 PM | #37 | |
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Copyright should be long enough to give the average work a chance to make a reasonable profit for the artist. No more, no less. That's what will give artists incentive to continue to create. Any copyright terms based on the life of the artist have nothing to do with the original intent of copyright. |
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06-24-2010, 02:55 PM | #38 | |
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For example, an artist like Michael Jackson -- no matter what your opinion of his work or his person happens to be -- poured significant funds into producing a series of recordings that were not released during his lifetime. Does it make sense that upon the instant of his death that all of his copyrights, including the ones for as-yet unreleased recordings, should instantly go into the public domain because you can't "incentivize the dead?" Should his estate be stuck with massive debts and no viable way to recoup those debts? Similarly, should we just abolish the concept of a "literary executor?" Should every scrap of paper that Nabokov ever wrote on be declared PD at the instant of his death? Should Salinger's estate be forced to publicly release anything Salinger wrote, in spite of any written instructions in his will or to his executor(s)? What if the artist explicitly instructs a literary executor to put his archives and unpublished writings into the hands of an institution that is capable of maintaining the writings -- does that somehow run afoul of the idea of putting works into PD? (Granted there are problems with this approach; e.g. the Kerouak estate is tangled up in all sorts of legal wrangling, which is preventing scholars access to his archives and papers. However, throwing open the floodgates doesn't quite seem beneficial either.) Or... What constitutes a "reasonable profit" and a "reasonable time frame?" 70 years? 50 years? 25 years? What's the criteria, and from whence is the time frame derived? Or should we pick a profit amount, and declare that the instant the work achieves a certain amount of profit, it goes into PD...? Life + 70 may be too long. However, the idea of guaranteeing copyright for the creator's lifetime, plus at least some additional time, certainly makes sense to me. |
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06-25-2010, 08:52 AM | #39 | |
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Why not link copyright to the creation: 20 years for each work, whether the author is alive or not, works for late and posthume creations... I agree writers should benefit from their work, like the inventors, but why a life time? Or make the patent last for the life time of the inventor +70...That would be interesting to see. |
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