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Personally, I'd make a distinction between the gossip-worthiness of the Brontes' lives and that of their deaths. My girlfriend and her twin sister are both artists. When they're busy painting or making collages and I'm writing, I often think of the Bronte sisters. That sort of communal artistic focus seems ideal to me, but it can appear vaguely improper to strangers despite its innocence. |
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That sort of communal artistic focus seems wonderfully conducive to creativity and is part of the Bronte's lives which I envy. I don't, however, envy them the medical ignorance of the times in which they lived, which is what leaves us with such mystery and ability to speculate about the possibilities fostered by such closeness and the feelings which may have simmered in the Haworth pot. Was it all proper sibling affection, or were there sibling rivalries which may have led to murder? Or the outsider, Nicholls, for some reason of his own wanting to kill the Brontes. I recently purchased a second-hand book, "The Brontes A Life in Letters" edited by Juliet Barker, in the intro it is said that Nicholls threatened to censor Charlotte's future letters to Ellen Nussey if Ellen did not promise to burn them. This presents him as a tyrannical husband who wanted to present a picture of himself as loving, which is how we generally think of him because of the letters, but what if she were concealing the truth?
I think there's lots more to the Bronte story than meets the eye. The official version just doesn't make sense to me. Lots of scope for the imaginations of many novelists or research historians. |
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07-28-2014, 08:59 AM | #35 |
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But at least the basic cause of death is generally known, even if it's something like AIDS, if not the complete picture. For example, we know that the cause of Princess Di death was RTA, even if we can speculate that the crash was deliberately instigated and not an accident.
News reporters are almost everywhere, and death certificates/inquests are more accurate at establishing cause of death, so we're not leaving such mysteries behind. There are certain deaths, like those of Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger, Paula Yates and Peaches, where the causes are well known, but the whys and wherefores are still clouded in mystery. With the Brontes, the actual causes still leave room for doubt and speculation. |
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I didn't say that ignorance of the cause necessarily leads to the conclusion that there was a conspiracy, or even that one person was the agent, but that the circumstances of their deaths encourages interesting speculation. Three of them dead within a year, the other dying nine months after marriage to a seemingly tyrannical man, hmmm, I wonder whether 'consumption', rather than being what we now term 'tuberculosis' was just a blanket medical term used then for 'illness unknown', a little like 'viral infection' is used now for a high fever of unknown origin. But the unknown illness in the case of the Bronte sisters (I accept that Bramwell drank himself to death) could well have been poison. After all this time, there's very little way of proving what killed them, except, maybe exhumation, to test bones and hair for signs of obvious poisons such as arsenic. I'm not even certain that would still be detectable.
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At that time, wasn't arsenic also in many 'remedies' and beauty products, as well as yellow and green wallpaper (I always thought the woman in "The Yellow Wallpaper" was suffering from poisoning)? This would have given them a certain resistance to it: if you take small doses of arsenic regularly, the lethal dose is higher. But there were many other possible poisons. James Tully, the writer of "The Crimes of Charlotte Bronte" thinks it was agrimony, if I remember correctly.
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I read a historical mystery in which a woman served her husband tiny doses of arsenic in his food every day, and then killed him by cutting him off cold turkey.
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Very few people had clean drinking water available to them prior to the 20th century. That's why people - even young children - drank (weak) beer, rather than water - the brewing process killed the bacteria.
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And then the English also switched from beer to Tea as well didn't they? That led to thegreat Tea growing empire during their colonial period as well as the slave trade prior to 1800 or so. Boiled water probably didn't get rid of all problems but I wager it helped some too.
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well, I imagine they would have found something to trade if not tea. More cinammon perhaps.
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