Cybook Gen3 firmware on Netronix EB-100

[cftall]

Quite the spirited thread. " Crackers"

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by cftall

Quite the spirited thread. " Crackers"

It certainly was!

Derek

[orlincho]

Originally Posted by dottedmag

We have sucessfully installed the Cybook Gen3 firmware on the Netronix EB-100: Flickr.

I have a opposite question.
As far as Cybook was only device that was available on local market @ the end of last year. I was almost forced to choose this one.
I can't say I'm not happy with it, but some inperfections still bother me (bugs, lack of software support).
For more than half year I've no single purchase of Mobi-book. Ive used Mobipocket Generator to create almost all of books I've red but this was done only becuase PDF cannot be reflown and TXT viewer does not support other codepages, and I need CYRILIC.

So about a question - Is it possible to use Netronix Firmware on Cybook if UNICODE is supported in more common format like RTF or FB2 or even pure TXT?

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by orlincho

I have a opposite question.
As far as Cybook was only device that was available on local market @ the end of last year. I was almost forced to choose this one.
I can't say I'm not happy with it, but some inperfections still bother me (bugs, lack of software support).
For more than half year I've no single purchase of Mobi-book. Ive used Mobipocket Generator to create almost all of books I've red but this was done only becuase PDF cannot be reflown and TXT viewer does not support other codepages, and I need CYRILIC.

So about a question - Is it possible to use Netronix Firmware on Cybook if UNICODE is supported in more common format like RTF or FB2 or even pure TXT?

I suppose it would. However, the Netronix EB-100 (and the EB-600) do not support RTF or FB2. Yep. You have to first turn your HTML, RTF, DOC, PDF, Mobi, eReader and FB2 files *INTO* TXT, then you have to use their (admittedly *QUITE* sucky) STK Maker to create an STK ebook from that TXT file.

This will most likely be quite different for the EB-610 and EB-611 (one of which will be the Astak 6" model) as they run WinCE 5.0 and will probably support using (in the Astak models anyway) either eReader or Mobipocket Reader.

Derek

[markbond1007]

Harry,

Actually he may have a point, albight in a round-a-bout way, again the problem is with the GPL, whether the boo reader software should be GPL or not is a moot point really, the linux code on the machine is definately GPL'd as such the distributer(s) legally have to provide both the licence and either the source code or an offer to provide the source code, this is where Bookeen have failed. IF you were to sell your CyBook, you would be subject to the same violation, the whole point of the GPL is such that your licence is NOT with Bookeen (for GPL'd software), because they dont hold the right to licence said software. The point being that if you sell your CyBook and the purchaser were to demand the source code to the GPL'd software on the device, according to the GPL its YOU who have to provide it as the person who gave the buyer the compiled code in the first place, therefore its you who would be sued should they so desire to.

Whether you care or not is irrelevant until its tested in court of course ;-)

Mark

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by markbond1007

Harry,

Actually he may have a point, albight in a round-a-bout way, again the problem is with the GPL, whether the boo reader software should be GPL or not is a moot point really, the linux code on the machine is definately GPL'd as such the distributer(s) legally have to provide both the licence and either the source code or an offer to provide the source code, this is where Bookeen have failed. IF you were to sell your CyBook, you would be subject to the same violation, the whole point of the GPL is such that your licence is NOT with Bookeen (for GPL'd software), because they dont hold the right to licence said software. The point being that if you sell your CyBook and the purchaser were to demand the source code to the GPL'd software on the device, according to the GPL its YOU who have to provide it as the person who gave the buyer the compiled code in the first place, therefore its you who would be sued should they so desire to.

Whether you care or not is irrelevant until its tested in court of course ;-)

Mark

Somehow I think a case could be made that, as a customer, selling a used Cybook would not require the person to make the source code available. Now if the person were to act as a reseller of Cybooks, I believe the view you're stating would be correct.

Derek

[dottedmag]

Originally Posted by delphidb96

Somehow I think a case could be made that, as a customer, selling a used Cybook would not require the person to make the source code available. Now if the person were to act as a reseller of Cybooks, I believe the view you're stating would be correct.

It does not matter whether you sell single device or act as a reseller: it is the same law that allows suing users for distributing torrents with copyrighted material.

And this is THE nonsense of current copyright laws, and we can't do anything until laws are changed: everyone who distributes/sells copyrighted material can be taken to the court.

[delphidb96]

Originally Posted by dottedmag

It does not matter whether you sell single device or act as a reseller: it is the same law that allows suing users for distributing torrents with copyrighted material.

And this is THE nonsense of current copyright laws, and we can't do anything until laws are changed: everyone who distributes/sells copyrighted material can be taken to the court.

Then we need to have 10 million or more customers "sell" their devices and file lawsuits in courts across the world, individually, all within the same time frame, to force the courts to rule that this is a bogus law. And if enough cases get filed in a short frame of time, that's exactly what will happen - especially if each and every manufacturer were named as co-defendents for; A) not making source code directly available in-the-box, B) not working to change this stupid section of the law beforehand.

Derek

[sealbeater]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Thank you, Tad, that's what I was trying to find out - whether the original poster was redistributing Bookeen's firmware (which would not be legal) or simply providing information about how to install it on other hardware, for people appropriately licensed to do so. If it's the latter, then obviously there's no problem and my concern has been addressed.

I would suggest, however, that before installing the firmware on a different machine, that it would be prudent for people to contact Bookeen and ascertain whether or not their software licence permits them to do so. I have a suspicion (but I may, of course, be incorrect) that it does not.

I've always felt that software licenses have no place on my hardware. I didn't agree to any software license. I dont' feel any such should stand in the way of my full use of my hardware. All too often, the software license is used to restrict my hardware purchase.

[zeganasu]

hello,

this is my first post, I'm Italian, so I speak english a little bit.....

by the way...... I would like to try openinkpot on my Cybook Gen3, but, by this page, I don't understand how to install it

http://openinkpot.org/wiki/NetronixEB600

I'd like to install this to try, so I'd like get openinkpot and official Firmware a same time, is it possible?

[dottedmag]

Originally Posted by zeganasu

hello,
I'd like to install this to try, so I'd like get openinkpot and official Firmware a same time, is it possible?

It is in "for developers only" state yet, and yes, it is possible to use both at same time.

[zeganasu]

Oh, it's ok, I'm waiting for customer version

[grucha44]

Is it possible to install firmware from Pocketbook on Cybook ?

I reads PDF, RTF, FB2, TXT, HTML, DJVU, CHM, PRC, EPUB and has games, clock, etc.

http://pocketbook.com.ua/index.php?id=203