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Old 06-01-2010, 05:54 PM   #16
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It'll be in good company for near-misses in the professional reader scene.

new Delta thingy: Good size, color is a bonus, NO PEN= FAIL
Que, Skiff: Nice size, great weight, NO PEN = FAIL
DR800, Asus EEE Tablet: Pen: yes! Size = 8" FAIL
Samsung e61: Size = 6" EVEN WORSE FAIL
Entourage Edge: Ok size, pen support, WEIGHT & BATTERY LIFE FAIL.

Sometimes I think they're screwing it up on purpose, just to mess with us.
Have they said "no pen, no annotation"? I didn't see much regarding specs. I wouldn't be so quick to write something off on so little information. Now, I think the concept is worth keeping an eye on, as we wait for more info to emerge. (My apologies, if i missed that part.)
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:55 PM   #17
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Have they even said anything about price?
No, but it would have to be pricey. Look at the Que--starts at $700 something for a smaller screen than this and that's only with normal, monochrome e-ink.

With a new color tech, bigger screen etc., this would have to be pretty pricey I'd think. Though that could be debated with deals when buying 3 year magazine subscriptions etc.

Also no word on stylus--but I think that would be unlikely if they're marketing it as a magazine reader rather than a business/academic reader etc.
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"E-Magazine - about half the weight of Apple Inc.'s iPad - is made especially for professionals to read magazines or documents with color charts, Lee said."

How do I become a professional magazines reader?

" about half the weight of Apple Inc.'s iPad" Now that is something!

" is made especially for professionals" Not gonna be cheap.

I have a question. Would this size be good for people who need those extra large print books? Has anyone tried out one of the larger ereaders out on someone who has poor eyesight?
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I assume any bigger screen would be better for bad eye sight. I know some Kindle DX owners on here said they bought there's because they need very large print and that's better on a bigger screen as you get more words per page, biggest font size is larger etc.
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It'll be in good company for near-misses in the professional reader scene.

new Delta thingy: Good size, color is a bonus, NO PEN = FAIL
Que, Skiff: Nice size, great weight, NO PEN = FAIL
Well here's what i get for being sick a day and a half- scooped! I just sent my article about bridgestone/delta to nate.

Delta-the prototype in Seattle had pen input and also bluetooth, wifi , usb and sd slot. the one on the stand and the one that the reps had showing seperately.

As for Que- it has a pretty good mark up system and notation system. the notes are even attached to the file and go with it when you send it off in an email or to your computer
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As long as you could use it for more than one magazine subscription, like several... up to a dozen or so! I wouldn't want to have a different one for every magazine I subscribe too!
A dozen or so, nothing... all of 'em! I don't want a device with a proprietary system that works on some magazines, another device that works on most of the rest, and one more for that single special mag I can't do without...

All of 'em. Or nothing.
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A dozen or so, nothing... all of 'em! I don't want a device with a proprietary system that works on some magazines, another device that works on most of the rest, and one more for that single special mag I can't do without...

All of 'em. Or nothing.
The choice to have ALL of them! Some I would not want, even if I was a professional magazine reader like SameOldStory wants to be and paid to read 'em!
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totally agree and thats the publishers again.

you've got the Conde Nast group going with one platform, Hearst going on another, Bonnier another, Time etc etc zinio,olive(plastic logic que) etc etc

since Hearst backed first paper turning it into Skiff will they allow competing publishing groups like conde nast on "their" device? If their smart they'll just ask for a percentage
to make a little profit off of their competitors efforts but they could also try to squeeze them out . that would be disastrous i think since Im sure other devices like the Ipad will find room for everyone.
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The choice to have ALL of them! Some I would not want, even if I was a professional magazine reader like SameOldStory wants to be and paid to read 'em!
No... I just meant that every single magazine out there should be available in the same, non-proprietary format that can be read on any standard device I choose. So I don't need 2-3 proprietary devices to read the magazines I do want.

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No... I just meant that every single magazine out there should be available in the same, non-proprietary format that can be read on any standard device I choose.
I agree!
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The choice to have ALL of them! Some I would not want, even if I was a professional magazine reader like SameOldStory wants to be and paid to read 'em!
rebarnmom, YOU can be a professional magazine reader! I will hire you!

For a security deposit of only $199 I will send you a special 9 X 12 inch manila drawing paper professional magazine device to read magazines on top of. Send an additional $19.95 deposit in the next 10 minutes and I'll send you a bright yellow #2 stylus!

Shipping and handling is only $24.95.

There are many people that would like to be a professional magazine readers so act now!!!

PS- When I said that I wanted to be a professional magazine reader, I meant again. It's such a wonderful life anyone would jump at the chance. So act now before it's too late!

PSS- no checks credit cards, or other payments that can be traced slow down your entry in to the fascinating world of professional magazine reading.
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It sounds promising, but the screen size is outrageous... It would be only fitting for graphic novels and really big graphs.
ummmm....an 8.5" x 11" page has a diagonal measure of approximately 14"...just ask your old friend Pythagoras. So with smaller margins this is an ideal screen size for those pages.

This size panel is PERFECT for research materials, reference books, etc...the lack of this size panels is exactly WHY those publishers are not jumping feet first into the ebook market. I know of two in one of the areas I work who are very eager to being pubishing ebook versions and almost everyone who works in those areas has been clamoring for them for a while now. Plus it's a way for these publishers to sell 2nd copies to people as none of us would mind the cost compared to the shelves and shelves of nothing but references. And we NEED color as it is important to the research...but the color must be accurate.
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Nice find!
It's great to see a new screen technology being commercialised (Bridgstone).
To my knowledge, this may well be the first non-LCD, non-eInk colour screen available on the market (Fujitsu Flepia was e-Ink derivative, right?).
I am personally keen to see what it delivers in terms of refresh rate, contrast and battery life.
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No... I just meant that every single magazine out there should be available in the same, non-proprietary format that can be read on any standard device I choose. So I don't need 2-3 proprietary devices to read the magazines I do want.
I am not fussed about the format being proprietary so much, as long as companies allow the format to be viewed on as many devices as possible i.e. the approach that amazon have taken with the kindle.

The point about every magazine being readable on every device is the important thing, they can talk about the devices coming free with a subscription but that misses the point that I don't want to carry multiple reading devices and if they try to make me do that then the likely response will be to just get out of the habit of buying a particular magazine.

The other important thing is to get the pricing right and not do anything as stupid as zinio have done with their pricing of sfx:

http://gb.zinio.com/browse/publicati...ctId=500257014

(Prices for 13 issues)
£70 - zinio price
£79.30 - price they claim for cover price
£51.87 - actual cover price
£36.32 - subscriber price
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