Onyx BOOX Hands on at CeBIT

Mr. Goodbar · 03-03-2009, 10:44 AM

I hope this is okay with the site, but I just noticed a hands on article on engadget with the Onyx. Mods, please delete if I did anything wrong.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/03/v...boox-e-reader/

zelda_pinwheel · 03-03-2009, 10:51 AM

nice find ! the interface looks really fast. i'm surprised though because i had supposed they were using the wacom tactile screen (underneath the e-ink level) since we always see them using a stylus, but the screen seemed very reflective, as if the tactile layer were on top...

the only problem with those salon videos is there is so much background noise i think i could only hear about 1/3 of what the guy was saying. i did hear that you can add / use whatever dictionary you want (yay !), and they also said that it should be available for sale around june, at a price point less than the sony 700 (which is 400$). of course, that could easily mean it will sell for 390$...

definitely one to watch though. if the touch screen can also be used to turn pages, and will accept input from fingers as well as stylus for basic actions (page turn, menu selection) it could be a very interesting competitor for the 700.

Mr. Goodbar · 03-03-2009, 11:40 AM

Yes, definitely tough to hear with all the background noise. The thing that struck me is that navigation seemed very dependent on the pen, much like the irex dr series. Responsiveness/speed seemed to be very good. I also noticed the screen was severely scratched which may indicate a plastic layer that isn't anywhere near as durable as a glass layer, similar to iphone, would be. Nevertheless, it's exciting to see different models with different capabilities coming to market. I personally can't wait to see what the Wizpac txtr looks like.

mobelby · 03-03-2009, 04:16 PM

I wonder if they'll take any note of the feedback on the reflective screen. All the comments on engadget are about how the reflective screen is not good for reading

Moejoe · 03-03-2009, 05:00 PM

Looks interesting, but there's something about it that irks me and I can't quite put my finger on it. I'm waiting now for any news and videos on the Txtr and see how that is in the flesh, so to speak

Kris777 · 03-03-2009, 05:01 PM

I tested the unit on CeBIT and it looks pretty good but people in the booth told me that they have plans to change the body of the unit to make it more attractive. They also had the sample of the units with 8 and 9" screens.

mobelby · 03-03-2009, 05:06 PM

Kris777,

What was your view on the reflectiveness of the screen and also the refresh rate when turning a page ?

Thanks

pilotbob · 03-03-2009, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobelby

I wonder if they'll take any note of the feedback on the reflective screen. All the comments on engadget are about how the reflective screen is not good for reading

I don't know what you mean. All eInk devices have a reflective screen.

BOb

Kris777 · 03-03-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobelby

Kris777,

What was your view on the reflectiveness of the screen and also the refresh rate when turning a page ?

Thanks

It has the same eInk screen that Sony has and refresh rate the same. I didn't find any difference.

Mr. Goodbar · 03-03-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

I don't know what you mean. All eInk devices have a reflective screen.

BOb

I think he means the screen had a more reflective/glossy finish as opposed to the more matte finish of most of the devices.

mobelby · 03-03-2009, 05:27 PM

Thanks for translating my comments into American English for pilotbob to read, Mr Goodbar

That is exactly what I meant.

pilotbob · 03-03-2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Goodbar

I think he means the screen had a more reflective/glossy finish as opposed to the more matte finish of most of the devices.

Ah... ok.

BOb

windtalker · 03-03-2009, 11:42 PM

I had a chance to use their sample device (BOOX) before, the reflectiveness is because the protection film isn't removed. They said they will remove it when mass production, or users can remove them by themselves.

mobelby · 03-03-2009, 11:52 PM

Thanks Windtalker.

My benchmark for clarity of a screen is the Iliad v2.
If you've seen the Iliad v2, how does it compare?

Mr. Goodbar · 03-04-2009, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobelby

Thanks Windtalker.

My benchmark for clarity of a screen is the Iliad v2.
If you've seen the Iliad v2, how does it compare?

Great question. My v2 with viziplex definitely seems easier to read than my kindles or Sony. I'm not sure if it has to do with their own customization or if it might be as simple as the fonts they use, but I do notice a difference. If it didn't take one minute to boot and was faster it would be great.

03-03-2009, 10:44 AM	#1
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	Onyx BOOX Hands on at CeBIT I hope this is okay with the site, but I just noticed a hands on article on engadget with the Onyx. Mods, please delete if I did anything wrong. http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/03/v...boox-e-reader/

03-03-2009, 11:42 PM	#13
windtalker Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: none	I had a chance to use their sample device (BOOX) before, the reflectiveness is because the protection film isn't removed. They said they will remove it when mass production, or users can remove them by themselves. Last edited by windtalker; 03-03-2009 at 11:48 PM.

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zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	nice find ! the interface looks really fast. i'm surprised though because i had supposed they were using the wacom tactile screen (underneath the e-ink level) since we always see them using a stylus, but the screen seemed very reflective, as if the tactile layer were on top... the only problem with those salon videos is there is so much background noise i think i could only hear about 1/3 of what the guy was saying. i did hear that you can add / use whatever dictionary you want (yay !), and they also said that it should be available for sale around june, at a price point less than the sony 700 (which is 400$). of course, that could easily mean it will sell for 390$... definitely one to watch though. if the touch screen can also be used to turn pages, and will accept input from fingers as well as stylus for basic actions (page turn, menu selection) it could be a very interesting competitor for the 700.

03-03-2009, 11:40 AM	#3
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	Yes, definitely tough to hear with all the background noise. The thing that struck me is that navigation seemed very dependent on the pen, much like the irex dr series. Responsiveness/speed seemed to be very good. I also noticed the screen was severely scratched which may indicate a plastic layer that isn't anywhere near as durable as a glass layer, similar to iphone, would be. Nevertheless, it's exciting to see different models with different capabilities coming to market. I personally can't wait to see what the Wizpac txtr looks like.

03-03-2009, 04:16 PM	#4
mobelby Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 224 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: eeepc 901	I wonder if they'll take any note of the feedback on the reflective screen. All the comments on engadget are about how the reflective screen is not good for reading

03-03-2009, 05:00 PM	#5
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	Looks interesting, but there's something about it that irks me and I can't quite put my finger on it. I'm waiting now for any news and videos on the Txtr and see how that is in the flesh, so to speak

03-03-2009, 05:01 PM	#6
Kris777 Banned Posts: 1,767 Karma: 2520493 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Nexus 7, jetBook-Lite, jetBook mini, Toshiba Thrive, JETBOOK COLOR	I tested the unit on CeBIT and it looks pretty good but people in the booth told me that they have plans to change the body of the unit to make it more attractive. They also had the sample of the units with 8 and 9" screens.

03-03-2009, 05:06 PM	#7
mobelby Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 224 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: eeepc 901	Kris777, What was your view on the reflectiveness of the screen and also the refresh rate when turning a page ? Thanks

03-03-2009, 05:27 PM	#11
mobelby Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 224 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: eeepc 901	Thanks for translating my comments into American English for pilotbob to read, Mr Goodbar That is exactly what I meant.

03-03-2009, 11:52 PM	#14
mobelby Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 224 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: eeepc 901	Thanks Windtalker. My benchmark for clarity of a screen is the Iliad v2. If you've seen the Iliad v2, how does it compare?

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