italic, bold etc to normal

cybmole · 01-05-2011, 06:41 AM

sigil has easy to use bottons for book mode which add italic, bold underline to marked text. but I see no reverse option i.e. change italic back to normal. can that be done in book mode ?

kiwidude · 01-05-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybmole

sigil has easy to use bottons for book mode which add italic, bold underline to marked text. but I see no reverse option i.e. change italic back to normal. can that be done in book mode ?

You can just toggle the style button again (i.e. click italic a second time). Or you can select "normal" from the dropdown of heading styles.

cybmole · 01-05-2011, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwidude

You can just toggle the style button again (i.e. click italic a second time). Or you can select "normal" from the dropdown of heading styles.

duh! so easy - I thought I'd tried that before posting & it had not worked but tried it again & it works fine.

thanks for answering.

Toxaris · 01-06-2011, 04:04 AM

However, it does not always work. If the italic is in the style, I find that the italic cannot be undone via the button. Sounds logical too, how would Sigil know what style to use then?

cybmole · 01-06-2011, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxaris

However, it does not always work. If the italic is in the style, I find that the italic cannot be undone via the button. Sounds logical too, how would Sigil know what style to use then?

ah - that explains why my initial test did not work

Ahmad Samir · 01-06-2011, 11:01 AM

IIUC, it works as it should. The button in Sigil wraps the text you want italicise in tags; so one click adds those tags a second click removes them. Naturally this wouldn't work on text italicised by a css rule e.g. .

cybmole · 01-07-2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmad Samir

IIUC, it works as it should. The button in Sigil wraps the text you want italicise in tags; so one click adds those tags a second click removes them. Naturally this wouldn't work on text italicised by a css rule e.g. .

needs better documentation. a noob like me who doesn't really know or care about the underlying html but just wants to change italic to normal tries highlighting text in book view & clicking the italic button, sees that nothing happens & wrongly concludes that feature does not work.

RAH · 03-02-2011, 10:03 AM

Yes, I had the same problem trying to remove an underline. My first reaction upon reading this thread was to wonder why Sigil cannot remove the css rule surrounding the text in question. However, upon thinking a little, I realized that Sigil has no knowledge of what the css rule is doing, so it cannot remove it, unlike removing standard HTML.

It does seem that it is something that should be documented, if for no other reason but to stop people from complaining about the "bug" in Sigil.

In my case, I am trying to show a person who has no HTML knowledge how to fix typos in an epub file using Sigil. In a case like this, trying to remove underlines, I'll have no choice it seems but to show them how to go into HTML view and remove the spanned css rule. Oh well...

theducks · 03-02-2011, 10:34 AM

Select the Text
IF the buttons appear depressed, Sigil probably will let you pop them back out. with a click

Otherwis... CV to find the selector(s) and off to the stylesheet you go

RAH · 03-04-2011, 08:43 AM

The problem I had with underlining was compounded by Sigil adding its own local style on top of a style in the stylesheet. I don't know why it did that.

The original HTML shows this:
meself

After conversion in Calibre to epub, it shows this:

meself

where calibre20 is defined in the stylesheet.css as:
.calibre20 {
line-height: 1.1;
text-decoration: underline
}

but sgc-1 is defined at the top of any chapter that has an underline, in the html file as:
span.sgc-1 {text-decoration:underline}

So to change the underline to italic, I wanted to just change the definition in the stylesheet, but it wouldn't work. I had to also do a global change of the sgc-1 definition. Fortunately, Sigil's Find tool has the ability to do such a change, but I do wonder why Sigil added that extra local definition.

cybmole · 03-04-2011, 08:47 AM

i was told, in another thread, that the html tidy option creates those sgc-1 styles, and can be disabled.

RAH · 03-04-2011, 10:37 AM

Ah, that's interesting. I did do some searching about this topic and found some threads from a few years ago that said some things would be optional, but finding no "Options" settings in Sigil, I kind of figured it hadn't been done yet.

But I now see that the Tidy button is a toggle, and it was set in my version (probably the default). So I'll try unsetting it in the future and that will no doubt help in a case like this. Thanks for the tip!

01-05-2011, 06:41 AM	#1
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	italic, bold etc to normal sigil has easy to use bottons for book mode which add italic, bold underline to marked text. but I see no reverse option i.e. change italic back to normal. can that be done in book mode ?

01-06-2011, 11:01 AM	#6
Ahmad Samir Zealot Posts: 114 Karma: 5246 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: none	IIUC, it works as it should. The button in Sigil wraps the text you want italicise in <i> </i> tags; so one click adds those tags a second click removes them. Naturally this wouldn't work on text italicised by a css rule e.g. <span class="name-of-italic-class"> </span>.

03-04-2011, 08:43 AM	#10
RAH Guru Posts: 611 Karma: 575652 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hampton, NH Device: Color Nook; Nook Touch	The problem I had with underlining was compounded by Sigil adding its own local style on top of a style in the stylesheet. I don't know why it did that. The original HTML shows this: <u>meself</u> After conversion in Calibre to epub, it shows this: <span class="calibre20 sgc-1">meself</span> where calibre20 is defined in the stylesheet.css as: .calibre20 { line-height: 1.1; text-decoration: underline } but sgc-1 is defined at the top of any chapter that has an underline, in the html file as: span.sgc-1 {text-decoration:underline} So to change the underline to italic, I wanted to just change the definition in the stylesheet, but it wouldn't work. I had to also do a global change of the sgc-1 definition. Fortunately, Sigil's Find tool has the ability to do such a change, but I do wonder why Sigil added that extra local definition.

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Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	However, it does not always work. If the italic is in the style, I find that the italic cannot be undone via the button. Sounds logical too, how would Sigil know what style to use then?

03-02-2011, 10:03 AM	#8
RAH Guru Posts: 611 Karma: 575652 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hampton, NH Device: Color Nook; Nook Touch	Yes, I had the same problem trying to remove an underline. My first reaction upon reading this thread was to wonder why Sigil cannot remove the css rule surrounding the text in question. However, upon thinking a little, I realized that Sigil has no knowledge of what the css rule is doing, so it cannot remove it, unlike removing standard HTML. It does seem that it is something that should be documented, if for no other reason but to stop people from complaining about the "bug" in Sigil. In my case, I am trying to show a person who has no HTML knowledge how to fix typos in an epub file using Sigil. In a case like this, trying to remove underlines, I'll have no choice it seems but to show them how to go into HTML view and remove the spanned css rule. Oh well...

03-02-2011, 10:34 AM	#9
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,754 Karma: 54401244 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Select the Text IF the buttons appear depressed, Sigil probably will let you pop them back out. with a click Otherwis... CV to find the selector(s) and off to the stylesheet you go

03-04-2011, 08:47 AM	#11
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	i was told, in another thread, that the html tidy option creates those sgc-1 styles, and can be disabled.

03-04-2011, 10:37 AM	#12
RAH Guru Posts: 611 Karma: 575652 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hampton, NH Device: Color Nook; Nook Touch	Ah, that's interesting. I did do some searching about this topic and found some threads from a few years ago that said some things would be optional, but finding no "Options" settings in Sigil, I kind of figured it hadn't been done yet. But I now see that the Tidy button is a toggle, and it was set in my version (probably the default). So I'll try unsetting it in the future and that will no doubt help in a case like this. Thanks for the tip!

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