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And, for crying out loud, virtually no sales numbers of specific products are released by any company ever -- for the exact same competitive reasons Amazon protects its sales figures. You may get aggregate figures, but "x" sales of poruct Y in market Z is simply not going to be revealed an no one ought to expect them to do so. |
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You are right that companies can buy competitive information from the likes of Forrester, so really the sales numbers aren't that secret to begin with. Lee |
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12-31-2010, 09:36 PM | #48 |
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It would be an egregious miscarriage of law if you could claim employment status with Amazon when, in fact, you are a vendor. Your vendor rules are whatever you and Amazon agree to in advance -- including termination or change clauses. Sign contracts and do business with companies and under terms that allow you to sleep at night. Go elsewhere otherwise -- unlike governments, you are not forced to have a business relationship with Amazon, Google or anyone else in the private sector.
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Releasing numbers means they then have numbers to beat--it becomes immediately clear if sales slow. Releasing numbers give competitors a target--if Amazon sells 10, the competitors strive to sell 20, even if they have to cheat.
It's all part of marketing and Apple and Amazon both do it well. |
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Personally, it's my opinion that Amazon has done more to help authors than any publisher/vendor/entity in eons. I'm not going to fuss that I can't give my book away... |
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I don't see why people whine about this. Amazon is a publicly traded company. They've always mentioned the Kindle sales in their annual reports.
You'd be amazed how they game the system and react in real time to sales trends, volumes , products, etc. This answer they've given lines up with precisely how they do business. |
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I haven't read all the postings, but I do think that it might also be a case of wanting to avoid confusion as well. I mean say they total up their sales 4 times a year and in the last quarter year they sold fewer kindles than in the quarter before that. There might be reasons that are beyond their control such as the plants in China having had problems with a supplier, but all the casual viewer of the figures would see is that fewer units were sold in the last quarter of 2010. It wouldn't be a matter of declining interest in the units, but without a long winded explanation of why fewer were sold others (both competitors and potential customers) might get the wrong idea about why such a drop happened.
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Amazon is engaging in similar games, albeit in a legal fashion. It's just frustrating for both investors and the perpetually curious. |
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If there was a way I could start this much conversation, I think I'd post things every quarter to my blog about how my "The Sedona O'Hala Series" is my BEST SELLING product ever! And I could even come up with statements like, "In the last two days, it sold more copies than in any two day period prior!"
But somehow, I think you have to be Amazon or J.K. Rowling for anyone to notice or care. OR....maybe it's just that Amazon is traded as a public company? I doubt it... I worked at Dell and Compaq and other companies--both were accused of "channel stuffing" at various times. So numbers can be..."assumed" "massaged" and "enabled" to say *almost* whatever the stock holders want to hear. It can work for several quarters, but eventually, those little twists and turns catch up with companies unless they are somehow able to really move merchandise unexpectedly... |
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Does Amazon do anything more than make the claim that the Kindle is their bestselling item? Personally I am skeptical of this claim. I demand to see the sales figures for Twilight and the Cuisinart Brew Central Coffee Maker. |
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