Linux, Borders Ap

tajreed · 09-19-2010, 08:11 PM

Still no Linux version of the Borders reader ap?. I would like to buy from Borders, as I live near one, but can't sync with the Kobo. Anyone have any insight. What's up with Borders anyway?

farrioth · 09-26-2010, 05:36 AM

Have you tried using the Windows version with Wine?

tajreed · 09-26-2010, 05:34 PM

Yes, I've tried with Wine and it installs but won't sync with reader.

Solicitous · 09-26-2010, 07:39 PM

Well I can't speak for wine specifically, but with Adobe Digital Editions and crossover office I have found that I need to connect the reader THEN load ADE. Perhaps the Borders App running on wine needs the reader connected first then run the Borders App. Might be worth a try.

tajreed · 09-29-2010, 09:00 PM

Tried switching things around. No luck. Installs from Wine nicely, but no synscing. Need a Linux version. I e-mailed two weeks ago-no response.

SameerH · 09-29-2010, 10:16 PM

I can try and get you a version, with no promises of support though. Whereas we develop on linux and thus the linux builds tend to be relatively solid, we do most of the testing / bug fixing with focus on PC's / Macs.

Will have to be 1-2 weeks from now tho, email me shasan at kobobooks dot com

MrPLD · 09-29-2010, 10:19 PM

It's good to see more locations looking at linux as a viable option.

Given that Android is basically linux (with the modified kernel) it makes sense that a lot of places should now look at linux/linux-like developments.

I'd say distribution of Ubuntu/Debian packages would gain the most exposure due to the rapidly expanding number of people using Linux as a result of Ubuntu's fairly good offering.

Paul.

Solicitous · 09-29-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SameerH

I can try and get you a version, with no promises of support though. Whereas we develop on linux and thus the linux builds tend to be relatively solid, we do most of the testing / bug fixing with focus on PC's / Macs.

Will have to be 1-2 weeks from now tho, email me shasan at kobobooks dot com

Can I ask, why don't Kobo release an official Linux version of the Desktop app? Obviously it is already developed and used internally, so its not like a complete development project is needed. The Linux market is expanding and us users are screaming out for official apps, rather than the current hack'n find a workaround solution.

MrPLD · 09-29-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solicitous

The Linux market is expanding and us users are screaming out for official apps, rather than the current hack'n find a workaround solution.

Legalities perhaps? Maybe even fear? Sounds silly I know but the fact is once you drop the app into the linux pit then you know it's going to be torn to pieces by several people looking for GPL violations and what ever else. Certainly we don't want illegal things going on but sometimes I think that there's a large contingent within the Linux community who seem hell-bent on knifing every commercial vendor.

(btw, I'm an Open-source developer of about 15 years - I also do commercial software for linux )

paul.

JPenguin · 09-29-2010, 11:49 PM

They have released a linux version of their app, they haven't released ones which use the Borders ebook store though. They haven't "officially" released an Linux app cause they don't want to support it, it sounds like they already have a problem with not enough support staff for handling the Windows and Mac side of things so I don't blame them. You should be able to find a thread on here which does have a link to the Linux version of their app.

MrPLD · 09-29-2010, 11:51 PM

Before everyone jumps in and says "the community will support it" I have to say it still doesn't matter. I get endless questions/feature-requests/support-requests (non-paying) for software and unless people are paying about $300 a copy I really don't have the time or inclination any more to do the support. I've been at it for 12 years straight on some of the packages.

Paul.

brownieboy · 10-01-2010, 07:27 AM

How about using Calibre?

It's in the Ubuntu repositories.

Solicitous · 10-02-2010, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPLD

Legalities perhaps? Maybe even fear? Sounds silly I know but the fact is once you drop the app into the linux pit then you know it's going to be torn to pieces by several people looking for GPL violations and what ever else. Certainly we don't want illegal things going on but sometimes I think that there's a large contingent within the Linux community who seem hell-bent on knifing every commercial vendor.

(btw, I'm an Open-source developer of about 15 years - I also do commercial software for linux )

paul.

I know what you are saying. There was a thread a while back about possible GPL violations with the Kobo (ended up being a misunderstanding, Kobo weren't in the wrong).

I've mentioned this in recent months in forums with ereaders; I find it rather ironic that a Linux-based device has no Linux support what-so-ever (in terms of application software for managing the device).

Then again with the announcement of a wifi-version the Desktop app is almost becoming irrelevant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownieboy

How about using Calibre?

It's in the Ubuntu repositories.

Nice idea, but the Kobo Desktop allows for syncing purchased ebooks from Kobo with the device. If you don't use the Kobo Desktop you need to do the workaround to run ADE under wine to be able to download the DRM'd epubs from Kobo before you can load them into Calibre. ADE or Kobo Desktop, either way us Linux users need to find a workaround.

09-19-2010, 08:11 PM	#1
tajreed Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: none	Linux, Borders Ap Still no Linux version of the Borders reader ap?. I would like to buy from Borders, as I live near one, but can't sync with the Kobo. Anyone have any insight. What's up with Borders anyway?

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tajreed Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: none	Yes, I've tried with Wine and it installs but won't sync with reader.

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Solicitous Wizard Posts: 1,434 Karma: 1525776 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: TAS, Australia Device: Astak Pocket Pro (Black), 2 x Kindle WiFi (Graphite), iPod Touch 4G	Well I can't speak for wine specifically, but with Adobe Digital Editions and crossover office I have found that I need to connect the reader THEN load ADE. Perhaps the Borders App running on wine needs the reader connected first then run the Borders App. Might be worth a try.

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tajreed Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: none	Tried switching things around. No luck. Installs from Wine nicely, but no synscing. Need a Linux version. I e-mailed two weeks ago-no response.

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SameerH Product Manager Posts: 487 Karma: 590887 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Aura H2O	I can try and get you a version, with no promises of support though. Whereas we develop on linux and thus the linux builds tend to be relatively solid, we do most of the testing / bug fixing with focus on PC's / Macs. Will have to be 1-2 weeks from now tho, email me shasan at kobobooks dot com

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MrPLD Author's pet-geek Posts: 933 Karma: 1040670 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Queensland, Australia Device: Kindle 3 Wifi, Onyx Boox M96	It's good to see more locations looking at linux as a viable option. Given that Android is basically linux (with the modified kernel) it makes sense that a lot of places should now look at linux/linux-like developments. I'd say distribution of Ubuntu/Debian packages would gain the most exposure due to the rapidly expanding number of people using Linux as a result of Ubuntu's fairly good offering. Paul.

09-29-2010, 11:49 PM	#10
JPenguin Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 42 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo EReader, Kobo for Palm Pre	They have released a linux version of their app, they haven't released ones which use the Borders ebook store though. They haven't "officially" released an Linux app cause they don't want to support it, it sounds like they already have a problem with not enough support staff for handling the Windows and Mac side of things so I don't blame them. You should be able to find a thread on here which does have a link to the Linux version of their app.

09-29-2010, 11:51 PM	#11
MrPLD Author's pet-geek Posts: 933 Karma: 1040670 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: North Queensland, Australia Device: Kindle 3 Wifi, Onyx Boox M96	Before everyone jumps in and says "the community will support it" I have to say it still doesn't matter. I get endless questions/feature-requests/support-requests (non-paying) for software and unless people are paying about $300 a copy I really don't have the time or inclination any more to do the support. I've been at it for 12 years straight on some of the packages. Paul.

10-01-2010, 07:27 AM	#12
brownieboy Member Posts: 10 Karma: 16 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia. Device: Kobo (original)	How about using Calibre? It's in the Ubuntu repositories.