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Old 07-01-2008, 10:41 AM   #16
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I am not sure but the target for the 5" model is end of July. Originally the 6" was similar but I think it, at least, has been pushed out a month or two. The 9.7" model is due in October or November.

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I thought that the 5" was just Astak's in-house creation, which is supposed to release in July.
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I thought that the 5" was just Astak's in-house creation, which is supposed to release in July.
I don't understand the comment. The 5" is a product, just like the others.

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Old 07-01-2008, 11:00 AM   #18
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I think he meant that he thought that Netronix didnt want to release a 5'' device and that Astak developed this one alone.
Can you actually state it like that in english?
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I don't care what you call it, when can you buy it....(the Win CE versions, that is.)
A Wifi-enabled Linux-Version for me please. (And I really, really dont understand why wifi seems to make problems for linux-based devices. There are more then enough high-quality (and cheap) linux-enabled wifi-chipsets out there ...)
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:50 AM   #20
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I think he meant that he thought that Netronix didnt want to release a 5'' device and that Astak developed this one alone.
Can you actually state it like that in english?
I believe that Netronix did this one also. Astak, from what I can see from my visit there, does not have the capability in house to design and manufacture a e-Ink hardware device. While Netronix has not offered this for sale separately I believe it is their product. I only included it to fully answer the question asked earlier in the thread about when the Mentor would ship. Sorry if someone thought I was off topic.

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Old 07-01-2008, 04:11 PM   #21
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I believe that Netronix did this one also. Astak, from what I can see from my visit there, does not have the capability in house to design and manufacture a e-Ink hardware device. While Netronix has not offered this for sale separately I believe it is their product. I only included it to fully answer the question asked earlier in the thread about when the Mentor would ship. Sorry if someone thought I was off topic.

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I must have been mistaken. Reading from the RobertB's posts in the other thread, I must have gotten it into my head that the 5" device was designed in-house. I don't think I've seen anything from Netronix about a 5" of their own.
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:49 PM   #22
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I must have been mistaken. Reading from the RobertB's posts in the other thread, I must have gotten it into my head that the 5" device was designed in-house. I don't think I've seen anything from Netronix about a 5" of their own.
Just so you know... Netronix *IS* releasing a 5" version!

Here's the link.

http://www.netronixinc.com/product_EB500.htm

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Old 07-02-2008, 01:53 PM   #23
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Yea, and I still want to know what "Read in the dark" means. Anyone have a contact they could ask? Is there some type of built in lighting on this device?

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Old 07-02-2008, 02:06 PM   #24
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Just so you know... Netronix *IS* releasing a 5" version!

Here's the link.

http://www.netronixinc.com/product_EB500.htm

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They must have added this today. When I looked yesterday I swear I only saw 4 models, not 5.
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Just so you know... Netronix *IS* releasing a 5" version!

Here's the link.

http://www.netronixinc.com/product_EB500.htm

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Great. Now when can we buy the damn thing?
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:15 PM   #26
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Great. Now when can we buy the damn thing?

Sometime in August, through Astak. Currently, they're targeting it for $249, retail. What does anyone want to bet that price will climb between now and then?

And it appears that PVI should be releasing their touchscreen versions of the EPD displays between yesterday and September 30th. That being 3rd Quarter. Hmmm... Anyone want to take bets that those 6" and 9.7" toucscreen units will release closer to Q1/2009???

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I was just looking at the PDF for the 5" reader, and I noticed that it's virtually identical to the one I got from Astak. Aside froma few graphics and the title, the two sheets are the same. The Netronix PDF even has the same dpi error (it says 170, when it should say 200 dpi).

Basically, Netronix plagiarized the Astak spec sheet.
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Sometime in August, through Astak. Currently, they're targeting it for $249, retail. What does anyone want to bet that price will climb between now and then?
For the 5"? Now, my memory is notoriously poor, as proven earlier this thread, but did we just go from $150, when RobertB first mentioned it, to "under $200" when the Astak Mentor site first went up to $249? (Did they alter that today? I swear I saw differently yesterday!)

Now the July release moves to August, and the product is no longer an inexpensive alternative.



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Old 07-02-2008, 10:42 PM   #29
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And it appears that PVI should be releasing their touchscreen versions of the EPD displays between yesterday and September 30th. That being 3rd Quarter.
Astak is also now saying September for their 6" Reader.

What confuses me about the 5" version is a Linux Qt environment plus MobiPocket or eReader (FictionWise) support. MobiPocket obviously has its Java Reader, but eReader does not have an announced Linux reader.

Also Astak is apparently going to sell one Linux device (5" screen) and two WinCE devices - all with the same Reader software on them (which is close to impossible, unless they use Qt on WinCE too even though this is currently in beta). It would make more sense (except perhaps for price) for all Astak's Readers to run WinCE, because both MobiPocket and eReader have WinCE Reader software. Or for all of them to run Linux for that matter. It greatly simplifies software development and maintenance to have one O/S.

There is less problem with Netronix offering two operating systems, assuming they don't bootleg them this time round. Since the user support will come from the system integrators, and they can each choose one operating system for all their Readers.
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As far as I understodd from the email I recieved from RobertB, the Netronix and the Astak readers had the same hardware but the software on the Astak was supposed to be tweaked for the US. I asked about the availability of the Astak readers in Australia and RobertB said in his email: "There are three partners in this that cover Asia, Europe, and the Americas. We have the Americas and want Australia. The machines will be very similar in most ways... so somehow you will be covered on getting one. We just do not know if it will say Astak or Netronix on it."
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