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Old 01-12-2010, 05:17 AM   #1
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PB 302 vs. Onyx Boox 60 vs. Bookeen Orizon

Was sind die Unterschiede genau ? (ich meine natürlich nicht das Aussehen). Display ? Mit oder ohne Stylus ? Formate ? Zusatzfunktion ?

Wenn jemand das kurz erläutern kann, wäre ich sehr dankbar...

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Was sind die Unterschiede genau ? (ich meine natürlich nicht das Aussehen). Display ? Mit oder ohne Stylus ? Formate ? Zusatzfunktion ?

Wenn jemand das kurz erläutern kann, wäre ich sehr dankbar...

302: Touchscreen ohne Stylus mit möglichem Glare (konstruktionsbedingt weil vor dem Screen noch eine zusätzliche Scheibe)

Boox: Touchscreen mit Wacom-Technologie (also nur mit Stylus bedienbar), aber auch keine zusätzliche Scheibe (funktioniert magnetisch)

Orizon (das ist aber noch Spekulation) anderes Display ermöglicht Touchscreen hinter Display ohne Stylus, allerdings ist dieser Touchscreen nicht so empfindlich wie die beiden anderen Varianten, deshalb schwerer steuerbar.

Jetzt müssen wir noch herauskriegen, wer den besten Kompromiss auf die Beine stellt, wobei die Software auch eine grosse Rolle spielt!
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:58 AM   #3
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302: Touchscreen ohne Stylus mit möglichem Glare (konstruktionsbedingt weil vor dem Screen noch eine zusätzliche Scheibe)
Das 302 ist mit Stylus. Oder täusche ich mich?
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Das 302 ist mit Stylus. Oder täusche ich mich?
Es kann ein Stylus benutzt werden, muss aber nicht!
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302: Touchscreen ohne Stylus mit möglichem Glare (konstruktionsbedingt weil vor dem Screen noch eine zusätzliche Scheibe)

Boox: Touchscreen mit Wacom-Technologie (also nur mit Stylus bedienbar), aber auch keine zusätzliche Scheibe (funktioniert magnetisch)

Orizon (das ist aber noch Spekulation) anderes Display ermöglicht Touchscreen hinter Display ohne Stylus, allerdings ist dieser Touchscreen nicht so empfindlich wie die beiden anderen Varianten, deshalb schwerer steuerbar.

Jetzt müssen wir noch herauskriegen, wer den besten Kompromiss auf die Beine stellt, wobei die Software auch eine grosse Rolle spielt!
Pocketbook 302 hat ein Stylus, lasst sich aber auch mit Fingern bedienen.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:09 AM   #6
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Hier die Bilder, die Nate in Vegas gemacht hat. Es reflektiert schon sehr....
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Hier die Bilder, die Nate in Vegas gemacht hat. Es reflektiert schon sehr....
Na gut, das sind noch Prototypen, also nicht aus der Serienfertigung! Die ersten richtigen Geräte werden erst am 15. Januar aus Taiwan weggeschickt. Ausserdem sind diese Ausstellungshallen immer sehr eigenartig beleuchtet!
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:35 AM   #8
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Das Cybook Orizon dürfte ja das erste mit PixelQi-Display sein. Bin ja gespannt, wie das im Vergleich zu einem eInk-Screen aussieht und sich verhält.
Funktionen/Formate/Einschränkungen dürften (abesehen von BT&WiFi) gleich oder zumindest ähnlich dem Gen3/Opus sein.
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Das Cybook Orizon dürfte ja das erste mit PixelQi-Display sein. Bin ja gespannt, wie das im Vergleich zu einem eInk-Screen aussieht und sich verhält.
Funktionen/Formate/Einschränkungen dürften (abesehen von BT&WiFi) gleich oder zumindest ähnlich dem Gen3/Opus sein.
Orizon wird einen SiPix-Screen haben, also keinen PixelQi.
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Sorry, my bad. Bin mit den ganzen neuen Technologien ein bisschen durcheinandergekommen (Vor allem, da ich diesmal nicht ganz so sehr darauf geachtet habe).

SiPix sieht von der Technik ähnlich aus wie eInk. Dürfte also nicht ganz so gravierende Unterschiede ausmachen. Obwohl entsprechend der Präsentation SiPix nicht so empfindlich sein dürfte. (Folientechnik)
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Sorry, my bad. Bin mit den ganzen neuen Technologien ein bisschen durcheinandergekommen (Vor allem, da ich diesmal nicht ganz so sehr darauf geachtet habe).

SiPix sieht von der Technik ähnlich aus wie eInk. Dürfte also nicht ganz so gravierende Unterschiede ausmachen. Obwohl entsprechend der Präsentation SiPix nicht so empfindlich sein dürfte. (Folientechnik)
Und vor allem billiger. Das mit der technischen Möglichkeit des dahinterliegenden Touchscreens ist auch nicht schlecht.
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Old 01-12-2010, 01:17 PM   #13
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Nach den ersten Bildern sowie den technischen Details ist das Orizon für mich eine positive Überraschung - aber zum einen wird es frühestens ab Juni verfügbar sein und zum anderen ist Bookeen bisher als alles Mögliche aber nicht als termintreuer Produzent aufgefallen.

Ich warte mal mein PB302 ab und wenn die Spiegelung im Rahmen ist, dann werde ich es dem Orizon aufgrund des offeneren Umgangs mit den Benutzern und Entwicklern sowie wegen der von Hause aus sehr guten Firmware vorziehen. Ansonsten würde ich mir noch ein Orizon zulegen. (Na gut Ok, dass mach ich wahrscheinlich sowieso )
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Im englischen News&Comments-Bereich wurde ein Video des Tech-Bloggers Charbax (http://armdevices.net) gepostet. Er besucht hier den Stand von Pocketbook auf der CES. Auch das Pocketbook 302 gibt es zu sehen:



Bin mir bei Charbax immer noch nicht sicher, ob ich sein Geplapper nervig oder witzig finde...
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Da wird ja SciFiFans "PocketBook 180°, Blättern ohne Tasten" vorgeführt.
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