04-27-2009, 10:48 PM | #76 | |
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I can still see the people jumping/falling from incredible heights to the street. I can still hear the broadcasts, I can still see the firemen/policemen/civilians rushing into the buildings, knowing they would collapse soon, but hoping to save anyone that they could. I can still hear some of the phone conversations from those in the towers before they collapsed. I can still feel the shock, and see the shock and horror on the faces of those in New York. I can still see the towers finally falling, and I can hear the screams in my head. And I still feel an undying hatred for those who perpetrated this horrendous, senseless atrocity. Anyone who feels 9-11 is a venue for jokes just needs a reality check. |
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04-27-2009, 10:58 PM | #77 |
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Just in case someone wants a 11 September joke:
http://www.ooze.com/articles/9-11-jokes.html |
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04-27-2009, 11:42 PM | #78 | |
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Why. Why in the name of anything decent, would you post such a link? Freedom of expression be dammed. Are you an American? And you can post such crap? I don't really give a rats ass what you think. |
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04-28-2009, 12:55 AM | #79 | |
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"When is humor 'bad humor'? Congratulations..... you have managed to plumb the depths!!! I still cannot believe that you would leave a link to such a tasteless and offensive site. Unbelieveable. Last edited by nohmi2; 04-28-2009 at 05:59 AM. Reason: Shocked. |
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04-28-2009, 03:56 AM | #81 |
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04-28-2009, 05:27 AM | #82 | |
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However - I noticed - because I was not born into one language, but rather several ones (speaking 6 so far) - that the fine details, context knowledge make a whole difference in how Humor is perceived. As my wife always tells me - to make me understand a "fine" joke, she has to wave the pale with "Humor" written in Large Capital letters on a Flag. So - IMHO - my best definition of Humor is linked to the environment you are into, the context and how well you know these people you are sitting with and how they make you understand their Humor |
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04-28-2009, 05:35 AM | #83 | |
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9/11 happened, as did the second world war. And people are still making jokes about Worldwar 2 and the Germans (I am German - and believe me - I have heard loads of Jokes about it). I don't find it amusing - but many do. Just look at the Jokes done about the Irak War. I don't know how many Iraki people have been killed by US Troops - but the jokes are still all over. I rather think that Jokes/Humor is the way some people are dealing with the horrors they have seen. As I said before. Depending on the People and the context, the jokes may come in fine, or not ... |
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04-28-2009, 06:51 AM | #84 |
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Thanks for the link. The jokes are horrible and in horribly bad taste.
I read all the material before the jokes, which attempts to explain before presenting. About the link, I think it's important that jokes in bad taste be accessible for anyone who wants to read them, and on a web site that caters to what anyone perceives as "bad taste." I find it interesting to examine the passionate comments following the post, which is a goldmine for critical analyses. One writer feels it's bad because one is an American; what about the one's killed who are not American? I think smurphy hit upon something interesting: The more unreal the incident, he writes, the harder it is to take. I take "unreal" to mean actual reality, as opposed to (for example) a zombie doing something distasteful such as eating intestines in the famous "Night of the Living Dead." Smurfy also mentions that we need jokes of this nature, sometimes, in order to deal with the horror of the act[s]. I agree with this. Jokes of this nature - these horrible jokes in bad taste - do indeed offer (in my opinion) reality checks - but not on the person telling them - but on the pulse of a national psyche. I think it would be truly interesting to read a dissertation that examines mob-developed fear and humor (in "bad taste" or not) when personal disasters occur at "home." I'm wondering if the more passionate we feel about something, perhaps the more illogically we argue for something? Don |
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@nohmi2 @desertgrandma
Guess what? I thought some of the jokes were funny. The people who wrote the jokes thought they were funny. The site hosts think they were funny. You two are not the be-all and end-all of good taste. Get off your high horse. I didn't post the jokes becuase I knew most people wouldn't like them. Had I known I would be yelled at for simply posting a link, I would have. |
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This proved my point.
Bad taste is in the memory of the listener. If we think 9/11 jokes are in bad taste, just cross over to an other continent and you'll hear street people laugh and applaud to the same jokes. |
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04-28-2009, 10:32 AM | #89 |
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I will not even read them.
You cannot joke about 9/11. It was and in a sense still is a tragedy. I would send anyone who thinks it is funny to live 1 year with people who commmitted the crime... It is like jokes about holocaust... |
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Here is an interesting article discussing this:
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/News/911doniger.html Quote:
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