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In my experience, the Chinese intellect is second to none. But they are a different people with different motivations and instincts ( best word I can come up with) then most Western cultures. Helen |
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China is already a nation which cannot be bullied, and it is only getting stronger. Whilst a friend of mine is predicting the collapse of the China boom in the not too distant future, it appears to me that it is more likely to continue, though this is not, of course, inevitable. I would add that I do not profess to be qualified or informed enough in this area to be confident of this prediction, and would welcome other views. |
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03-13-2012, 08:46 PM | #18 | |
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As for poor nations respecting intellectual property, it doesn't make that much sense until they have enough of their own that needs protecting. Until 2005, India didn't respect any drug patents. Then they started doing so, which makes sense because India does have international drug companies. This is just taking a step back because of a special situation. But in general, with modernization it makes more sense to respect intellectual property.
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03-14-2012, 01:16 AM | #19 |
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I guess the Indian government would rather spend more money on maintaining their nuclear arsenal than supporting the development of new medicines.
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03-14-2012, 05:48 AM | #20 |
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Yes, heaven forbid they try to deter two nuclear armed foes, who also happen to be their neighbours from targeting them.
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03-14-2012, 06:58 AM | #21 |
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The trouble is, there is a huge difference in the work involved in writing a novel, which might take on person 3 months, as opposed to developing new medicines, which takes hundreds of people years.
Research needs to be done and isn't cheap. Selling the drugs they come up with and are successful is how they fund research for new drugs. Patents, which only last 14 years at most, are a more or less balance between driving innovation and helping the greater good. (Not like copyright, which now locks things up forever, basically) So basically you have one thing that takes a lot of research and is protected for a limited time, vs something that is relatively easy to create and locked up forever. Not a great comparison, IMHO. (And as to China, they've pretty much doomed themselves with their 1 child policy. Their future is essentially Japan's. The Japanese just stopped having children - most of the West has done so, but Japan took it to a whole new level. And in China's case, because people only only had 1 kid, but would selectively only have boys, the ratio there is pretty screwy) |
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India had the bomb 10 years before Pakistan, and they are the reason why Pakistan has it. And China is threatening a lot of countries, yes, but India isn't one of them.
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India has every reason to be threatened by China. India is one country China has actually attacked in the past. It is an extremely poor argument to make that a country shouldn't prioritize defence.
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The US entertainment industry decides how copyright and trademark law should be drafted and enforced with the ultimate goal of enriching not society but that self-same entertainment industry. They protect their interests at the expense, often, of the public domain.
The pharmacological industry has been scouring indigenous medicine and plant life across the developing world for decades looking for clumps of molecules to patent. Not to enrich society, but to enrich stock-holders. If a developing nation decides that it's in their own best interests to abrogate foreign patents to save lives are we really supposed to feel sympathy for the drug companies who would rather see thousands suffer and die rather than voluntarily negotiate a more favourable deal? Cynically, I do wonder if the attention on this particular drug has anything to do with an ageing middle class, including law makers and politicians, being more likely to develop cancers. |
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Y'know, I really wish this part was true. "Dividend" is still a four- letter word on par with the N-bomb in most economic circles.
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As for it taking hundreds of person-years to get US and EU governmental approvals, that's true. But how much value is there, to India, in that approval process? One can argue the point. Tests mandated in the West are not geared to how the drug may be used in India. Also, Western drug companies spend more more on marketing than R&D. They'll tell you that a lot of the marketing is for drug reps to help the docs use their products more effectively. Regardless of whether you buy this, I don't think many of those drug reps are visiting India. |
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