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Interesting take on this in the Verge article:
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using American Idiom "Hang'em high!"
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07-11-2013, 07:45 AM | #199 |
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I have many an Apple product (three iPods and and iPad) and I am giggling.
Apple thought that it could get away with breaking the law and they were wrong. Now when the hell do I get my refund? I know it won't be for the full price difference, wouldn't that be sweet, but it will still add up to a good amount. |
07-11-2013, 07:56 AM | #200 |
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And of course now it's THE END OF THE BOOK!!!!
http://www.wired.com/business/2013/0...n-book-prices/ |
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07-11-2013, 08:31 AM | #201 | |
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From Kenny's link:
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Logically, shouldn't the price of books go down as the number of vendors go down. Fewer vendors means consolidated shipping, less accounting overhead, ... |
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07-11-2013, 08:35 AM | #202 | |
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Apparently, one of the reasons that it came back so quickly is that she wrote 2/3's of the decision before the trial even started.
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07-11-2013, 09:27 AM | #204 | |
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In case my reply was not understood earlier, I'll rephrase it. In this type of non-jury trial both sides present their case in detail before the trial begins, for review by the judge. It is customary for the judge to prepare a draft opinion at this stage. Both Apple and the DOJ requested that the judge reveal her preliminary opinion. The judge has to rule based on the full course of the trial, but that opinion can be informed, and changed, as more evidence is presented and argued. Revealing an opinion after reviewing the depositions but before the trial was just that, the current state of her thoughts after digesting the detailed case slides from both parties. It does not imply bias. Graham |
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07-11-2013, 09:32 AM | #205 | |
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Maybe she wrote two versions -- like the papers do... Besides, as I've already said, the case and result was clear from the beginning, sure something could have changed it, but in this case we all knew the outcome (even Apple) other than the fanboys. |
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07-11-2013, 11:05 AM | #206 | |
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In a nutshell - Shatzkin saying that Amazon pretty much sets the price and can raise it to what they want, while at the same time saying people walk into bookshops with the amazon app to compare prices. Somehow he seems to feel that Amazon are both lowering an raising the price of books at the same time, sheer genius |
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07-11-2013, 11:10 AM | #207 | |
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The very fact the the publishers HATED Amazon's pricing but were POWERLESS to do anything about it is proof positive that Amazon had monopoly power. It is apparent that the publishers did collude though I agree with Apple that Apple did not. The judge decided that Apple is guilty because Apple's actions allowed the publishers colluding to succeed. To me, at best, this is a case of being guilty for shooting a burglar who's broken into your house. The judge ignored the burglary and focused only on the shooting. |
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Also since Amazon pretty much never shares data how are we soooo sure they had 90% of the market? |
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With 120 Billion to 150 Billion in the bank, Apple has always thought they could buy any reality they wanted.
Heck, just 1 Billion will buy about 1000 high priced lawyers. ($1Million/year each) |
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Apple was found guilty on July 10th. See the Wall Street Journal, I don't know if you will be able to read the article without paying for a subscription, as i have done.
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